South Africa 101

Old Oct 22nd 2006, 5:46 pm
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Jfk
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Default South Africa 101

Just wanted to see if anyone can suggest a safe route for a month in
South Africa and surrounding countries.

My experience to Africa has been to Egypt and Morocco so far and I do
appreciate if someone who has been there recently can suggest a safe
itinerary to places worth seeing. I was thinking to start in Cape Town
in February and move up to Botswana, Zambia,Tanzania, Zimbabwe and
finish in Mozambique ...

I don't know if it is doable in a month? How safe, costly, and worthy
it be?

Thanks.
 
Old Oct 22nd 2006, 6:55 pm
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Marc Lurie
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That's a hell of a lot of travelling to do in a month, and you
definitely want to cut down your itinerary somewhat.

Are you planning on self-drive, public transport, or do you plan to
fly from place to place?

Your actual route depends on what you're interested in. If you are
interested in the bush, then don't start in Cape Town for example.

For a good rural/bush route with a sturdy vehicle you could look at
Johannesburg, west into Botswana, up through Botswana, through
Makgadigadi, and then to Kazangula. Accross the ferry into Zambia,
then to Livingstone and Vic Falls. From there, go via Harare to
Mozambique, and travel south through Mozambique to Maputo, then back
to Johannesburg, possibly taking the route through Kruger (depending
on the time of year). That would be a VERY busy month's trip.

I guess the most important thing is knowing what your interests are.
What are youmostly into: wildlife viewing, adventure sports, clubs
and entertainment, scuba diving, food, cultural events, solitary
places, deserts, beaches, cities etc?

Regards,
Marc

On 22 Oct 2006 22:46:46 -0700, "JFK" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Just wanted to see if anyone can suggest a safe route for a month in
    >South Africa and surrounding countries.
    >My experience to Africa has been to Egypt and Morocco so far and I do
    >appreciate if someone who has been there recently can suggest a safe
    >itinerary to places worth seeing. I was thinking to start in Cape Town
    >in February and move up to Botswana, Zambia,Tanzania, Zimbabwe and
    >finish in Mozambique ...
    >I don't know if it is doable in a month? How safe, costly, and worthy
    >it be?
    >Thanks.
 
Old Oct 23rd 2006, 7:02 am
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Allison
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Default Re: South Africa 101

Hi,
A friend and I rented a car in Harare and spent 5 weeks touring around
Zimbabwe, Botswana and the north eastern part of South Africa. We
didn't rush, but we also didn't spend longer than a couple of days in
any one spot. And towards the end we were working harder to complete
the circuit. To me, it sounds like you may be trying to go too far,
but you may be able to do it if you treat it like a bit of a rally.

In terms of safety, my trip was in 1993 - before all the trouble in
Zimbabwe. You may find it useful to check your national Foreign
Affairs website for travel advisories in all those places that you
mentioned.

Good luck and have fun.
Allison


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Old Oct 24th 2006, 8:15 am
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"JFK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
    > Just wanted to see if anyone can suggest a safe route for a month in
    > South Africa and surrounding countries.
    > My experience to Africa has been to Egypt and Morocco so far and I do
    > appreciate if someone who has been there recently can suggest a safe
    > itinerary to places worth seeing. I was thinking to start in Cape Town
    > in February and move up to Botswana, Zambia,Tanzania, Zimbabwe and
    > finish in Mozambique ...
    > I don't know if it is doable in a month? How safe, costly, and worthy
    > it be?
    > Thanks.

I just returned from a 1 month trip, roughly as follows:
- landed Cape Town and stayed near there with friends, including 1 weekend
near Hermanos (including seing some whales). Could have cut this bit down by
a few days.
- Drove up with one of the friends to Windhoek Namibia in one day - too
much, about 1,400km in 13 hours, not recommended. But the excellent Joe's
Beerhouse in Windhoek provided rapid recovery fluids & great food.
- Picked up another friend and a 2nd 4WD (rented, with car-top tents, about
15,000Rand for just over 2 weeks including full insurance, cheaper without
full insurance) in W'hoek. This car had long range tanks and was diesel,
which really helps with fuel logisitics.
- Drove to Maun Botswana in afternoon, again a long drive. Stayed at nice
lodge/camp outside Maun.
- Drove into Okavango Delta and camped in Moremi and Chobe parks for about 1
week. Picked up 4th member of party of group who came in on small local
charter plane from Maun after flight from Europe. Rented the plane for 1
hour flight around the Delta - highly recommended. This area was the
highlight of the trip to me. Heaps of wildlife, and very close. Camps are
unfenced and within a few hours of arriving a solitary elephant wandered
into the camp, walking between ours cars and tent, luckily without squashing
anything. If you camp you need to bring all food in. We had fridges in the
cars (one for the booze, one for food...). Drinkable water available in
(most?) camps. There are lodges but very expensive I understand ($US500-2000
per night?)
- Then went up to Victoria Falls. Entered Zimbabwe for best views but only
stayed the few hours to view the falls, and have a drink at splendid
Victoria Falls hotel.
- Crossed into Zambia and stayed a couple of nights in lodge overlooking
Zambesi. One day rafting on Zambesi. Excellent, though one of our group
managed to get a broken nose; 3 of us found this entertaining.
- Then along Caprivi Strip and a few nights at Ngepi campsite alongside
Kwango River. Excellent except shortage of ice cubes in bar (yes it was a
tough trip.)
- Then a trip southwards through Khaudom Game Park, not realising it was
semi-abandoned. Tough sand roads and one 4WD kept getting stuck because not
enough ground clearance. Took ages to get though, last couple of hours in
dark (which meant at least we saw some nocturnal beasts including splendid
porcupines). Just before dusk both cars were stuck in sand, so the digging
was a bit frantic at that stage. Some frantic charges up hills, occasional
use of a kinetic strap (elastic tow rope) got us through. Saw no other
vehicles in park, not exactly on the tourist route these days, and the road
was just a bit too tough for my heavily laden rented HiLux with roof-tents,
metal canopy, large fuel and water tanks etc..
- Then back to Windhoek where the others flew back from and the rental truck
was returned. Their trip was only about 2.5 weeks but we managed to do a lot
in that time.
- I drove the remaining 4WD back to Cape Town over 3 days, stopping to see
the Fish River Canyon (2nd biggest after Grand Canyon?) etc. Great views
even on the main road.

So we did quite a lot in under a month - or in my case almost a month but
some time wasted in Cape Town. The hardest part was returning to
"civilisation", when even Windhoek seemed like a big noisy city after the
bush.

I would have liked:
- a few more days in the game parks especially Moremi
- some time to go further into Zim/Zam
- more time in Namibia especially to visit the coast
- more ice cubes (our freezer failed, grrr)

And I now realise I could spend months exploring just S Africa,

Hope this helps.




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Old Nov 24th 2006, 2:12 am
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In article <[email protected]>, "RAK"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > - Drove into Okavango Delta and camped in Moremi and Chobe parks for about 1
    > week. Picked up 4th member of party of group who came in on small local
    > charter plane from Maun after flight from Europe. Rented the plane for 1
    > hour flight around the Delta - highly recommended. This area was the
    > highlight of the trip to me. Heaps of wildlife, and very close. Camps are
    > unfenced and within a few hours of arriving a solitary elephant wandered
    > into the camp, walking between ours cars and tent, luckily without squashing
    > anything. If you camp you need to bring all food in. We had fridges in the
    > cars (one for the booze, one for food...). Drinkable water available in
    > (most?) camps. There are lodges but very expensive I understand ($US500-2000
    > per night?)


It depends a lot on the time of year, and where. They get more tourists
up until the end of the rainy season. When the rainy season ends (usually
November) the wildlife starts to move away from the river and back
"home". This is because with the start of the rains the inland water
holes start to fill up.

The operator of the Chobe Game Lodge in Chobe National Park is Desert & Delta:
www.desertdelta.co.za

They have some expensive packages, it is true, but keep in mind their
expensive packages also include everything from laundry service to
unlimited drinks at the bar plus game drives and tours and all meals. The
only thing they leave out of their most expensive package are purchases at
the gift shop.

It is probably not a package that I would purchase (I don't drink enough
booze to make an unlimited bar tab worthwhile) but some people might.

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