Len Robbins

I'll be traveling to South Africa in May, can anyone recommend a private
game reserve, possibly one in Kruger National Park, where I can be certain
to see the big 5 animals. It would be helpful if it was comfortable for a
woman traveling alone and at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Sharon

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Michael Kilpatrick

Sharon

I had a good experience last year at Elephant Plains, which is in the Sabi
Sands reserve on the edge of Kruger (no fence between Sabi Sand and Kruger).

The price in the low season (1 May - 31 August) is R1120 per night for a
single ie at the lower end of private reserve rates. It is not as plush as
the really expensive private reserves, but perfectly comfortable, with
ensuite airconditioned cabins, 3 good meals a day and friendly, competent
staff.

This is the link:

http://www.elephantplains.co.za/rates.htm

You can never be certain of seeing the big 5 though. I saw a leopard on the
first evening, then leopards mating the next morning, but in 4 days did not
see a lion (but saw lions an hour after entering the public part of Kruger a
few days later).

Another possibility is Tshukudu, which is a similar price, but it is a fully
enclosed reserve which is really almost an open range zoo, in that they
openly leave food out for the animals. You will see all the big 5 though
(the lions are in a separate enclosure) and they also have some tame animals
that you can touch (as of last August, adult cheetah, baby lion, 6 mnth old
leopard) plus the food and service are both sensational.

I have also visited some more expensive private reserves if you are
interested. If you are paying in US$ they are all pretty much a bargain
considering what you get.

Michael

Edc4

    >I'll be traveling to South Africa in May, can anyone recommend a private
    >game reserve, possibly one in Kruger National Park, where I can be certain
    >to see the big 5 animals. It would be helpful if it was comfortable for a
    >woman traveling alone and at a reasonable price.
    >Thanks,
    >Sharon
Sharon, two years ago I went to Kruger in May and stayed at Harry's Camp, part
of Mala Mala group, and had the best safari experience I ever had. Saw all big
five in the first 24 hours, great guides and rangers, super service. Small
camp with only 12 rooms I think, not the cheapest in Kruger but worth every
penny. Here's a link: http://www.malamala.com/harryscamp.htm

If you go and they are still there, tell Brendan and Santos that Ed said hi.

Ed




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Dave Patterson

Sharon wrote:

    >I'll be traveling to South Africa in May, can anyone recommend a private
    >game reserve, possibly one in Kruger National Park, where I can be certain
    >to see the big 5 animals. It would be helpful if it was comfortable for a
    >woman traveling alone and at a reasonable price.
It will be comfortable, no worry there.
No one should ever guarantee you that you will see the 'Big 5'.

2 questions: How do you plan to get to the game reserve area?
What do you consider to be a reasonable price?

Len Robbins

Michael,

Thanks so much for your reply to my question and the link to the site. How
did you get up there transportationwise?

Sharon
"Michael Kilpatrick" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Sharon
    > I had a good experience last year at Elephant Plains, which is in the Sabi
    > Sands reserve on the edge of Kruger (no fence between Sabi Sand and
Kruger).
    > The price in the low season (1 May - 31 August) is R1120 per night for a
    > single ie at the lower end of private reserve rates. It is not as plush
as
    > the really expensive private reserves, but perfectly comfortable, with
    > ensuite airconditioned cabins, 3 good meals a day and friendly, competent
    > staff.
    > This is the link:
    > http://www.elephantplains.co.za/rates.htm
    > You can never be certain of seeing the big 5 though. I saw a leopard on
the
    > first evening, then leopards mating the next morning, but in 4 days did
not
    > see a lion (but saw lions an hour after entering the public part of Kruger
a
    > few days later).
    > Another possibility is Tshukudu, which is a similar price, but it is a
fully
    > enclosed reserve which is really almost an open range zoo, in that they
    > openly leave food out for the animals. You will see all the big 5 though
    > (the lions are in a separate enclosure) and they also have some tame
animals
    > that you can touch (as of last August, adult cheetah, baby lion, 6 mnth
old
    > leopard) plus the food and service are both sensational.
    > I have also visited some more expensive private reserves if you are
    > interested. If you are paying in US$ they are all pretty much a bargain
    > considering what you get.
    > Michael

Len Robbins

Hi Ed,

Thanks for your suggestion--I checked it out--looks wonderful. Might be a
little too rich for my purse though. How did you get there and from where?

Sharon
"Edc4" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >I'll be traveling to South Africa in May, can anyone recommend a private
    > >game reserve, possibly one in Kruger National Park, where I can be
certain
    > >to see the big 5 animals. It would be helpful if it was comfortable for a
    > >woman traveling alone and at a reasonable price.
    > >
    > >Thanks,
    > >Sharon
    > >
    > Sharon, two years ago I went to Kruger in May and stayed at Harry's Camp,
part
    > of Mala Mala group, and had the best safari experience I ever had. Saw
all big
    > five in the first 24 hours, great guides and rangers, super service.
Small
    > camp with only 12 rooms I think, not the cheapest in Kruger but worth
every
    > penny. Here's a link: http://www.malamala.com/harryscamp.htm
    > If you go and they are still there, tell Brendan and Santos that Ed said
hi.
    > Ed
    > >--
    > >Folk Art from Around the World
    > >www.thefolkartgallery.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

Len Robbins

I would like to pay in the area of $300-350 at the single supplement rate
if possible. An I have no idea how I'll get there--I quess you have to fly
up--I'll be be in Johannesburg. Is that expensive?

Sharon
"Dave Patterson" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Sharon wrote:
    > >I'll be traveling to South Africa in May, can anyone recommend a private
    > >game reserve, possibly one in Kruger National Park, where I can be
certain
    > >to see the big 5 animals. It would be helpful if it was comfortable for a
    > >woman traveling alone and at a reasonable price.
    > >
    > It will be comfortable, no worry there.
    > No one should ever guarantee you that you will see the 'Big 5'.
    > 2 questions: How do you plan to get to the game reserve area?
    > What do you consider to be a reasonable price?

Edc4

There is a short SA air flight from Joburg into Skukuza, a small airport in the
reserve. It would also be possible I'm sure to drive, though don't have an
idea how long that would take.

Ed


    >Hi Ed,
    >Thanks for your suggestion--I checked it out--looks wonderful. Might be a
    >little too rich for my purse though. How did you get there and from where?
    >Sharon
    >"Edc4" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> >
    >> >I'll be traveling to South Africa in May, can anyone recommend a private
    >> >game reserve, possibly one in Kruger National Park, where I can be
    >certain
    >> >to see the big 5 animals. It would be helpful if it was comfortable for a
    >> >woman traveling alone and at a reasonable price.
    >> >
    >> >Thanks,
    >> >Sharon
    >> >
    >> Sharon, two years ago I went to Kruger in May and stayed at Harry's Camp,
    >part
    >> of Mala Mala group, and had the best safari experience I ever had. Saw
    >all big
    >> five in the first 24 hours, great guides and rangers, super service.
    >Small
    >> camp with only 12 rooms I think, not the cheapest in Kruger but worth
    >every
    >> penny. Here's a link: http://www.malamala.com/harryscamp.htm
    >> If you go and they are still there, tell Brendan and Santos that Ed said
    >hi.
    >> Ed
    >> >--
    >> >Folk Art from Around the World
    >> >www.thefolkartgallery.com
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >

Dave Patterson

Sharon wrote:

    > I would like to pay in the area of $300-350 at the single supplement rate
    > if possible. An I have no idea how I'll get there--I quess you have to fly
    > up--I'll be be in Johannesburg. Is that expensive?

Depends on what we think of as expensive.
Probably $200 - $225 r/t Johannesburg plus
the cost of transfers between the airport at
Kruger and the camp you select.

I did a brief search on Google, and found a
package for May at Inyati camp that would
be a total for flights, camps, etc. of about $ 1400
for 4 nights for a single. This is a bargain.
Great location, I would call it a good 4-star camp,
and the area you are in (Sabi Sands) is the site of
the very most expensive safari camps..

Here's the page to start with:
http://www.wildlifeafrica.co.za/specinyati.html

I do not know these operators - but I suggest
contacting them and give them every specific fact
you can about dates, where you will be starting
from (a hotel, someone's home you are visiting
in Johannesburg) - except credit card, of course -
and find out how you would pay them, how they will
send you documents, who is your contact person
in Johannesburg. The company is one of the
Johannesburg suberbs, so you could probably
set up a meeting with them.

And that advice applies to any operator with whom
you have contact. Here's another, with an interesting
concept. They drive you from Johannesburg to the
game reserve location (about 5 hours, very pretty)
and fly you back. Prices are reasonable.
If you check on it, be very specific
about which camp they would put you in and ask
me to comment on it.
http://www.gosafari.co.za/kruger_fly_safari.html

Good luck.



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Michael Kilpatrick

I have visited SA several times and have always collected a hire car at
Joh'burg airport.

It is a 5 hour drive to the Kruger area and a bit more to get to Elephant
Plains but the roads are good until you get very close to the game reserves
and are still OK (unsealed but usually in good condition) in the private
reserves. I'm Australian, so we drive on the same side of the road as South
Africans and I find driving in SA to be very easy.

I choose to self drive because car hire is relatively cheap and if you are
going into the public part of Kruger you need a vehicle anyway.

Alternatively you can fly from Joh'burg to Hoedspruit and arrange a transfer
from there but I think it would be pretty expensive for a single. I'm sure
the people at Elephant plains would be happy to quote for you. Might not be
prohibitive if you're paying in $US.

Len Robbins

Dave, Thank you again for your ideas. I will check all this out. Do you live
in South Africa--is that why you know something about some of the Operators?

Thanks again,
Sharon
"Dave Patterson" wrote in message
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    > Sharon wrote:
    > > I would like to pay in the area of $300-350 at the single supplement
rate
    > > if possible. An I have no idea how I'll get there--I quess you have to
fly
    > > up--I'll be be in Johannesburg. Is that expensive?
    > Depends on what we think of as expensive.
    > Probably $200 - $225 r/t Johannesburg plus
    > the cost of transfers between the airport at
    > Kruger and the camp you select.
    > I did a brief search on Google, and found a
    > package for May at Inyati camp that would
    > be a total for flights, camps, etc. of about $ 1400
    > for 4 nights for a single. This is a bargain.
    > Great location, I would call it a good 4-star camp,
    > and the area you are in (Sabi Sands) is the site of
    > the very most expensive safari camps..
    > Here's the page to start with:
    > http://www.wildlifeafrica.co.za/specinyati.html
    > I do not know these operators - but I suggest
    > contacting them and give them every specific fact
    > you can about dates, where you will be starting
    > from (a hotel, someone's home you are visiting
    > in Johannesburg) - except credit card, of course -
    > and find out how you would pay them, how they will
    > send you documents, who is your contact person
    > in Johannesburg. The company is one of the
    > Johannesburg suberbs, so you could probably
    > set up a meeting with them.
    > And that advice applies to any operator with whom
    > you have contact. Here's another, with an interesting
    > concept. They drive you from Johannesburg to the
    > game reserve location (about 5 hours, very pretty)
    > and fly you back. Prices are reasonable.
    > If you check on it, be very specific
    > about which camp they would put you in and ask
    > me to comment on it.
    > http://www.gosafari.co.za/kruger_fly_safari.html
    > Good luck.
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"Len Robbins" wrote in message news:...
    > Dave, Thank you again for your ideas. I will check all this out. Do you live
    > in South Africa--is that why you know something about some of the Operators?
    >
    > Thanks again,
    > Sharon
    > "Dave Patterson" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > Sharon wrote:
    > >
    > > > I would like to pay in the area of $300-350 at the single supplement
    > rate
    > > > if possible. An I have no idea how I'll get there--I quess you have to
    > fly
    > > > up--I'll be be in Johannesburg. Is that expensive?
    > >
    > > Depends on what we think of as expensive.
    > > Probably $200 - $225 r/t Johannesburg plus
    > > the cost of transfers between the airport at
    > > Kruger and the camp you select.
    > >
    > > I did a brief search on Google, and found a
    > > package for May at Inyati camp that would
    > > be a total for flights, camps, etc. of about $ 1400
    > > for 4 nights for a single. This is a bargain.
    > > Great location, I would call it a good 4-star camp,
    > > and the area you are in (Sabi Sands) is the site of
    > > the very most expensive safari camps..
    > >
    > > Here's the page to start with:
    > > http://www.wildlifeafrica.co.za/specinyati.html
    > >
    > > I do not know these operators - but I suggest
    > > contacting them and give them every specific fact
    > > you can about dates, where you will be starting
    > > from (a hotel, someone's home you are visiting
    > > in Johannesburg) - except credit card, of course -
    > > and find out how you would pay them, how they will
    > > send you documents, who is your contact person
    > > in Johannesburg. The company is one of the
    > > Johannesburg suberbs, so you could probably
    > > set up a meeting with them.
    > >
    > > And that advice applies to any operator with whom
    > > you have contact. Here's another, with an interesting
    > > concept. They drive you from Johannesburg to the
    > > game reserve location (about 5 hours, very pretty)
    > > and fly you back. Prices are reasonable.
    > > If you check on it, be very specific
    > > about which camp they would put you in and ask
    > > me to comment on it.
    > > http://www.gosafari.co.za/kruger_fly_safari.html
    > >
    > > Good luck.
    > >
    > >
    > >
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Just a short note to rectify something: Lots of people are 'coming to
Kruger' which is actually NOT Kruger National Park. All the lodges
and private camps mentioned before (eg Mala Mala, Sabi Sabi, etc.) are
NOT in Kruger National Park but are bordering Kruger Park. The fences
have been removed a few years ago but it is not physically part of
Kruger. There is still a definite border.

Info on Kruger National Park (KNP) (bookings, prices, etc.) can be
found on www.parks-sa.co.za. The park is a lot cheaper than the
private reserves around Kruger Park. You can expect to pay about $38 -
$42 per night for two persons in serviced chalet with fridge, air
conditioning, etc. (same tariff for one person - no additional charge
- see website for more info). Cars can be rented from Avis, etc at
airport) and self drive on well-maintained roads in Kruger park (tar
and gravel) and enjoy the wildlife on your own at your own time. You
can also make use of safari companies and use their guides to take you
around in park (pricing - about $20-$35 per day)- see
www.untamed.co.za as an example). Restaurants and cafeterias
available in KNP.

Just thought I'd mention that. Daily flights from JHB to Nelspruit
(new airport just outside White River/Nelspruit called KMIA) these
days (not directly to KNP any longer as new Kruger Mpumalanga
International Airport (KMIA - see http://www.kmiairport.co.za) opened
doors in Oct 2002 - KNP is not allowed to permit scheduled commercial
flights into the park any longer). Return flights from JHB to KMIA is
around $240 depending on airline. Plus transport from there to Kruger
or adjacent pricate reserves by air or road.

Hope this gives you some more alternatives!

Regards
Danie

Scott Elliot

Danie, isn't there a private camp being built in Kruger near Talamati
Bushveld Camp? When we were there last September a lodge was being built
and I was under the impression that it was to be a private lodge to be
operated by one of the local tribes. I thought that there had been some
kind of aboriginal land claims settlement and that the tribe had agreed to
leave the land in Kruger, but operate a private camp as part of the deal.
Sorry, I can't remember the name of either the camp or the tribe.

Please excuse me if I have the terminalogy wrong. We are still trying to
settle aboriginal land claims in parts of Canada and these are the terms we
use.

Scott Elliot
http://www3.telus.net/selliot/

"Danie" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Just a short note to rectify something: Lots of people are 'coming to
    > Kruger' which is actually NOT Kruger National Park. All the lodges
    > and private camps mentioned before (eg Mala Mala, Sabi Sabi, etc.) are
    > NOT in Kruger National Park but are bordering Kruger Park. The fences
    > have been removed a few years ago but it is not physically part of
    > Kruger. There is still a definite border.
    > Info on Kruger National Park (KNP) (bookings, prices, etc.) can be
    > found on www.parks-sa.co.za. The park is a lot cheaper than the
    > private reserves around Kruger Park. You can expect to pay about $38 -
    > $42 per night for two persons in serviced chalet with fridge, air
    > conditioning, etc. (same tariff for one person - no additional charge
    > - see website for more info). Cars can be rented from Avis, etc at
    > airport) and self drive on well-maintained roads in Kruger park (tar
    > and gravel) and enjoy the wildlife on your own at your own time. You
    > can also make use of safari companies and use their guides to take you
    > around in park (pricing - about $20-$35 per day)- see
    > www.untamed.co.za as an example). Restaurants and cafeterias
    > available in KNP.
    > Just thought I'd mention that. Daily flights from JHB to Nelspruit
    > (new airport just outside White River/Nelspruit called KMIA) these
    > days (not directly to KNP any longer as new Kruger Mpumalanga
    > International Airport (KMIA - see http://www.kmiairport.co.za) opened
    > doors in Oct 2002 - KNP is not allowed to permit scheduled commercial
    > flights into the park any longer). Return flights from JHB to KMIA is
    > around $240 depending on airline. Plus transport from there to Kruger
    > or adjacent pricate reserves by air or road.
    > Hope this gives you some more alternatives!
    > Regards
    > Danie

Danie

Hi Scott
Yes, you're almost correct. Certain concession areas IN Kruger itself
are going to be operated by private operators (7 in total as far as I
can remember). This will be run as private lodges on a concession
basis WITHIN Kruger - so these lodges are truly within the borders of
Kruger (it still excludes the lodges mentioned in the previous
messages in thread). The lodges are run by private
individuals/companies INSIDE Kruger National Park. They are not
interfering/impacting with the ‘normal' tourism activities in KNP as
the concession areas are usually quite far from existing camps.

The one you are talking about as far as I know is in the far Northern
part of Kruger (Pafuri somewhere as part of an agreement with the
Makuleke's) but it is not a "concession area" as the above.

See the link for a bit more info on concession areas:
http://www.parks-sa.co.za/aboutus/aboutus_commercialisation.htm#Concessionaire's%20D etails

There is a concession area in the Talamati area (close to the western
border of KNP – just south of central KNP). This is not linked to any
land claim/tribe/etc. as far as I can make out.

SA National Park's website also gives some information on these
concession areas within KNP (and other parks) as well as the reasoning
behind it.

Hope it helps!

Regards
Danie

"Scott Elliot" wrote in message news:...
    > Danie, isn't there a private camp being built in Kruger near Talamati
    > Bushveld Camp? When we were there last September a lodge was being built
    > and I was under the impression that it was to be a private lodge to be
    > operated by one of the local tribes. I thought that there had been some
    > kind of aboriginal land claims settlement and that the tribe had agreed to
    > leave the land in Kruger, but operate a private camp as part of the deal.
    > Sorry, I can't remember the name of either the camp or the tribe.
    >
    > Please excuse me if I have the terminalogy wrong. We are still trying to
    > settle aboriginal land claims in parts of Canada and these are the terms we
    > use.
    >
    > Scott Elliot
    > http://www3.telus.net/selliot/
    >
    > "Danie" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Just a short note to rectify something: Lots of people are 'coming to
    > > Kruger' which is actually NOT Kruger National Park. All the lodges
    > > and private camps mentioned before (eg Mala Mala, Sabi Sabi, etc.) are
    > > NOT in Kruger National Park but are bordering Kruger Park. The fences
    > > have been removed a few years ago but it is not physically part of
    > > Kruger. There is still a definite border.
    > >
    > > Info on Kruger National Park (KNP) (bookings, prices, etc.) can be
    > > found on www.parks-sa.co.za. The park is a lot cheaper than the
    > > private reserves around Kruger Park. You can expect to pay about $38 -
    > > $42 per night for two persons in serviced chalet with fridge, air
    > > conditioning, etc. (same tariff for one person - no additional charge
    > > - see website for more info). Cars can be rented from Avis, etc at
    > > airport) and self drive on well-maintained roads in Kruger park (tar
    > > and gravel) and enjoy the wildlife on your own at your own time. You
    > > can also make use of safari companies and use their guides to take you
    > > around in park (pricing - about $20-$35 per day)- see
    > > www.untamed.co.za as an example). Restaurants and cafeterias
    > > available in KNP.
    > >
    > > Just thought I'd mention that. Daily flights from JHB to Nelspruit
    > > (new airport just outside White River/Nelspruit called KMIA) these
    > > days (not directly to KNP any longer as new Kruger Mpumalanga
    > > International Airport (KMIA - see http://www.kmiairport.co.za) opened
    > > doors in Oct 2002 - KNP is not allowed to permit scheduled commercial
    > > flights into the park any longer). Return flights from JHB to KMIA is
    > > around $240 depending on airline. Plus transport from there to Kruger
    > > or adjacent pricate reserves by air or road.
    > >
    > > Hope this gives you some more alternatives!
    > >
    > > Regards
    > > Danie

Scott Elliot

Thanks Danie, that's the most complete explanation I have received. When we
were in Kruger we were trying to piece together what we saw, what we read
and what we were told by guides and officials. It was difficult to put
together a very complete picture.

I think it is probably a good idea for the country to make a few more
dollars out of tourists who can afford more luxurious accommodation while
still retaining accessability for the average person.

I am not sure that there is no interference with "normal" tourist activities
because some of the concessions will be located on dams and public access
seems to be restricted. This is probably no different from the current
"bushveld camps" that are on roads only open to registered visitors to the
camps. Some of these more restricted areas can be a real benefit for game
viewing without being surrounded by a herd of cars every time you see
something.

Scott Elliot
http://www3.telus.net/selliot/

"Danie" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Scott
    > Yes, you're almost correct. Certain concession areas IN Kruger itself
    > are going to be operated by private operators (7 in total as far as I
    > can remember). This will be run as private lodges on a concession
    > basis WITHIN Kruger - so these lodges are truly within the borders of
    > Kruger (it still excludes the lodges mentioned in the previous
    > messages in thread). The lodges are run by private
    > individuals/companies INSIDE Kruger National Park. They are not
    > interfering/impacting with the 'normal' tourism activities in KNP as
    > the concession areas are usually quite far from existing camps.
    > The one you are talking about as far as I know is in the far Northern
    > part of Kruger (Pafuri somewhere as part of an agreement with the
    > Makuleke's) but it is not a "concession area" as the above.
    > See the link for a bit more info on concession areas:
    > http://www.parks-sa.co.za/aboutus/ab...htm#Concession
aire's%20Details
    > There is a concession area in the Talamati area (close to the western
    > border of KNP - just south of central KNP). This is not linked to any
    > land claim/tribe/etc. as far as I can make out.
    > SA National Park's website also gives some information on these
    > concession areas within KNP (and other parks) as well as the reasoning
    > behind it.
    > Hope it helps!
    > Regards
    > Danie
    > "Scott Elliot" wrote in message
news:...
    > > Danie, isn't there a private camp being built in Kruger near Talamati
    > > Bushveld Camp? When we were there last September a lodge was being
built
    > > and I was under the impression that it was to be a private lodge to be
    > > operated by one of the local tribes. I thought that there had been some
    > > kind of aboriginal land claims settlement and that the tribe had agreed
to
    > > leave the land in Kruger, but operate a private camp as part of the
deal.
    > > Sorry, I can't remember the name of either the camp or the tribe.
    > >
    > > Please excuse me if I have the terminalogy wrong. We are still trying
to
    > > settle aboriginal land claims in parts of Canada and these are the terms
we
    > > use.
    > >
    > > Scott Elliot
    > > http://www3.telus.net/selliot/
    > >
    > > "Danie" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Just a short note to rectify something: Lots of people are 'coming to
    > > > Kruger' which is actually NOT Kruger National Park. All the lodges
    > > > and private camps mentioned before (eg Mala Mala, Sabi Sabi, etc.) are
    > > > NOT in Kruger National Park but are bordering Kruger Park. The fences
    > > > have been removed a few years ago but it is not physically part of
    > > > Kruger. There is still a definite border.
    > > >
    > > > Info on Kruger National Park (KNP) (bookings, prices, etc.) can be
    > > > found on www.parks-sa.co.za. The park is a lot cheaper than the
    > > > private reserves around Kruger Park. You can expect to pay about $38 -
    > > > $42 per night for two persons in serviced chalet with fridge, air
    > > > conditioning, etc. (same tariff for one person - no additional charge
    > > > - see website for more info). Cars can be rented from Avis, etc at
    > > > airport) and self drive on well-maintained roads in Kruger park (tar
    > > > and gravel) and enjoy the wildlife on your own at your own time. You
    > > > can also make use of safari companies and use their guides to take you
    > > > around in park (pricing - about $20-$35 per day)- see
    > > > www.untamed.co.za as an example). Restaurants and cafeterias
    > > > available in KNP.
    > > >
    > > > Just thought I'd mention that. Daily flights from JHB to Nelspruit
    > > > (new airport just outside White River/Nelspruit called KMIA) these
    > > > days (not directly to KNP any longer as new Kruger Mpumalanga
    > > > International Airport (KMIA - see http://www.kmiairport.co.za) opened
    > > > doors in Oct 2002 - KNP is not allowed to permit scheduled commercial
    > > > flights into the park any longer). Return flights from JHB to KMIA is
    > > > around $240 depending on airline. Plus transport from there to Kruger
    > > > or adjacent pricate reserves by air or road.
    > > >
    > > > Hope this gives you some more alternatives!
    > > >
    > > > Regards
    > > > Danie