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First Time on Safari to Africa Questions

First Time on Safari to Africa Questions

Old Dec 17th 2004, 5:47 am
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Joel
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Liz wrote:

    > When you do your driving test, do you do it using manual gears?
    > In the UK, if you do your test in an automatic car, you get a
restricted
    > licence only to drive automatic cars (or at least that was the case
when I
    > did my test).

Most Americans drive automatic so there is no distinction between
licenses. As a matter of fact I'd say that unless you buy a sports
model or a 4WD, most passenger vehicles here are automatic. I can
drive a stick shift in a pinch but it would probably be funny watching
me pop the clutch after every stop.

    > Even worse than that is the driving in Nairobi: it's absolutely
crazy!
    > Last time we were there ('02), we were told proudly that they were
putting
    > in roundabouts 'just like in the UK' - well, yes, but they didn't use
themn
    > like we do: everyone just barged in regardless. Even D. who'd been
driving
    > since he was 17 and drives on the 'wrong side of the road' in Europe
and US,
    > wouldn't dream of doing it - even though it's on the 'right' side!
Have you ever driven in Boston :-)
 
Old Dec 17th 2004, 5:54 am
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Joel
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Hans-Georg,

I do stand corrected on my assumptions. Incidentally the company I'm
currently working with also suggested a June time frame for a combined
Kenya/Tanzania trip. I wonder of the reduction in Kenya would offset
the higher cost of Tanzania.

Perhaps I will join you in 2006 as well in a convoy. I'd be interested
to see how you do it plus I would not be alone which would take some of
the anxiety out of it.

Please post more information as you get closer, I'm still in 2005 mode
myself.

--Joel
 
Old Dec 20th 2004, 4:06 am
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Hans-Georg Michna
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On 17 Dec 2004 10:54:54 -0800, "Joel" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >I do stand corrected on my assumptions. Incidentally the company I'm
    >currently working with also suggested a June time frame for a combined
    >Kenya/Tanzania trip. I wonder of the reduction in Kenya would offset
    >the higher cost of Tanzania.
    >Perhaps I will join you in 2006 as well in a convoy. I'd be interested
    >to see how you do it plus I would not be alone which would take some of
    >the anxiety out of it.
    >Please post more information as you get closer, I'm still in 2005 mode
    >myself.

Joel,

I'll try to. The core time will be the two weeks after the
Pentecost weekend, I think those are the first two weeks in June
2006. There will probably be a one week extension for early
comers who want to spend three weeks of time.

The travel plan for the two weeks will be similar to
http://www.michna.com/kenya.htm .

The final go decision will probably be made around
November-December 2005.

Hans-Georg

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Old Dec 22nd 2004, 4:18 am
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Joel
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Thanks Hans. Just post here and if I'm interested I'll contact you off
-line.

--Joel
Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
    > On 17 Dec 2004 10:54:54 -0800, "Joel" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > >I do stand corrected on my assumptions. Incidentally the company
I'm
    > >currently working with also suggested a June time frame for a
combined
    > >Kenya/Tanzania trip. I wonder of the reduction in Kenya would
offset
    > >the higher cost of Tanzania.
    > >
    > >Perhaps I will join you in 2006 as well in a convoy. I'd be
interested
    > >to see how you do it plus I would not be alone which would take some
of
    > >the anxiety out of it.
    > >
    > >Please post more information as you get closer, I'm still in 2005
mode
    > >myself.
    > Joel,
    > I'll try to. The core time will be the two weeks after the
    > Pentecost weekend, I think those are the first two weeks in June
    > 2006. There will probably be a one week extension for early
    > comers who want to spend three weeks of time.
    > The travel plan for the two weeks will be similar to
    > http://www.michna.com/kenya.htm .
    > The final go decision will probably be made around
    > November-December 2005.
    >
    > Hans-Georg
    >
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Old Dec 22nd 2004, 4:21 am
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Just an update on my research. As I mentioned in my last post, I have
been working with a private company (US based) to provide a quote for a
private safari for two in Kenya based on an suggested itinerary that I
put together and to which the company has provided their own input to.
I'd like to post the itinerary for comment and to help guide future
people making the same types of decisions and research.

DAY 1 (9/13/05) - Leave US
DAY 2 - AM arrival @ Heathrow, Evening arrival in Nairobi, transfer to
Nairobi Serena.
DAY 3 - Breakfast, then transfer to Wilson airport and fly to Samburu.
Afternoon game drive, overnight @ Samburu Serena
DAY 4 - AM & PM game drives in Buffalo Springs and
Samburu game reserves. Samburu Serena
DAY 5 - AM & PM game drives in Buffalo Springs and
Samburu game reserves. Samburu Serena
DAY 6 - Breakfast, then slow game drive to reserve gate.
Drive south through Isiolo town to one of the
following properties: Sweetwaters tented camp, Mount Kenya Safari Club,
the Ark. (Not yet chosen by me by I like Sweetwaters)
DAY 6 - Drive to Lake Nakuru National Park. Afternoon
game drive. Overnight at Lion Hill Lodge or Lake
Nakuru Lodge.
DAY 7 - Morning & afternoon game drives. Overnight.
DAY 8 - Drive to Masai Mara game reserve. Afternoon game drive.
Overnight at Mara Intrepids tented camp or Mara Sarova
tented camp. (I'll probably go with the Mara Sarova to economize)
DAY 9 - Morning & afternoon game drives. Overnight.
DAY 10 - Breakfast, then game drive en route to Mara Serena.
Afternoon game drive. Overnight @ Serena.
DAY 11 - Morning and afternoon game drives. Mara Serena.
DAY 12 (09/24)- Bush Breakfast by the Mara river. Fly to Wilson
airport.
(Fly to Kigali)
Day 13 Gorilla Tracking
Day 14 - Gorilla Tracking
Day 15 - Early morning sightseeing. Transfer from Kigali to Nairobi
Overnight Nairobi
Day 16 Sight see Nairobi, Lunch or dinner Carnivore Restaurant Fly home
on BA

The Gorilla tracking part of the trip will be handled by Volcanoes
Safaris at a price of $1519 per person which includes permits for both
days. I have not yet gotten firm pricing for the first 11 days but an
original 15 day trip which included an extra night in the Mara and
another night at Samburu was around $5,000 per person so their portion
should now be cheaper. According to the tour operator this private
safari package, when priced, will include the international & the
domestic flights in Kenya, all park fees, private services of your
Guide/driver, bed & breakfast in Nairobi, all meals while on safari,
all accommodations as selected after our discussions, the flying doctor
service, tipping of the Guide & of the porters at the hotel and safari
lodges/camps. Any additional expenses would be travel insurance,
tipping of waiters, barmen, room stewards & maids, drinks (except on
game drives).

I'm curious to see what questions and/or comments people have on this.
 
Old Dec 22nd 2004, 6:32 am
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Hans-Georg Michna
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On 22 Dec 2004 09:21:12 -0800, "Joel" <[email protected]>
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    >Day 15 - Early morning sightseeing. Transfer from Kigali to Nairobi
    >Overnight Nairobi
    >Day 16 Sight see Nairobi, Lunch or dinner Carnivore Restaurant Fly home
    >on BA

Joel,

a wonderful itinerary. I like it.

The only detail I would try to make different is the one cited
above. I would try to stay for a third day, then fly to Nairobi
in the morning and continue to fly home on the same day.

I personally don't like to spend my last day in Nairobi and move
in and out of yet another hotel.

Hans-Georg

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Old Dec 22nd 2004, 11:53 pm
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I've been to Kenya(as a teen ager). As far as my personal experiences go, Kenyans are generally very good people who are welcoming and friendly.
Being down to earth, respectful of their culture and low key, plus friendly goes a long way. Don't carry a lot of cash around unless you really have to.
Please don't ask them why there is no peanut butter, it is a luxury
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Old Dec 23rd 2004, 9:51 pm
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In message <[email protected]. com>
"Joel" <[email protected]> wrote:


    > The Gorilla tracking part of the trip will be handled by Volcanoes
    > Safaris at a price of $1519 per person which includes permits for both
    > days. I have not yet gotten firm pricing for the first 11 days but an
    > original 15 day trip which included an extra night in the Mara and
    > another night at Samburu was around $5,000 per person so their portion
    > should now be cheaper. According to the tour operator this private
    > safari package, when priced, will include the international & the
    > domestic flights in Kenya, all park fees, private services of your
    > Guide/driver, bed & breakfast in Nairobi, all meals while on safari,
    > all accommodations as selected after our discussions, the flying doctor
    > service, tipping of the Guide & of the porters at the hotel and safari
    > lodges/camps.

I heard at the w/e that the US dollar is currently 2 to the UKP, in which
case that's a phenomenal price, considering it includes your flights and the
guide's tip.

The benefits of being able to travel off-season!

Safari njema

Liz

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