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Old Apr 13th 2017, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Karmal123
So we are moving over in July and I was looking for some advice on what to bring over when we first arrive. So things that are more cheaper over here in the UK
Items that I might need in the future such as bikes,wet suits, white goods, furniture, electrical items etc.
Also any recommendations for a removals firm to from Bucks to Cascais.
I think if you have the bikes bring them over.Some misunderstanding on here as to where you are headed. Up North in fact and not the Algarve. Cascais has some lovely cycling area's and I believer there are cycling clubs up there.

Remember that it's European style plugs over here.. So you will have to change your white/electrical goods for those fittings.(Unless you want the faff of exchangers on everything) As Mfesharne said ,check out what you want in the UK then order them over here and have them delivered.

You are lucky enough to know exactly where your going (unlike us who had to look for a new home once we arrived) so you will have a better idea what will fit and what to leave behind. In our experience ..We should have sold most of it in NL.as the style and even the colour of the furniture from a cold northern country did not fit in with the style of a warm southern one.
Light bulbs here are screw top.. So if you still have bayonet fittings bring plenty of suitable bulbs with you.
You will have read about importing a car on other threads I am sure. You have six months to do it.

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Light bulbs here are screw top.. So if you still have bayonet fittings bring plenty of suitable bulbs with you.
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I thought that with a car you had to own it for a year here before you could take it over is that right
Seems no point in bringing over a rhd car
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Originally Posted by Karmal123
I thought that with a car you had to own it for a year here before you could take it over is that right
Seems no point in bringing over a rhd car
You cannot matriculate the vehicle free of the import charges if you have not owned it for at least 12 months and can support that with evidence.
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Originally Posted by Karmal123
I thought that with a car you had to own it for a year here before you could take it over is that right
Seems no point in bringing over a rhd car
If you want to avoid paying import tax you have to be able to prove that you have owned the vehicle for a year. The tax is high.
We've decided to just buy a car when we get there, mainly because of the rhd problem, and the hassle of matriculation.

I'm sure you already know that cars cost more in Portugal than in the UK.
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Originally Posted by Karmal123
So we are moving over in July and I was looking for some advice on what to bring over when we first arrive. So things that are more cheaper over here in the UK

i thought bringing the wife was a good idea,oh well there is allways the vinho

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Originally Posted by Karmal123
So we are moving over in July and I was looking for some advice on what to bring over when we first arrive. So things that are more cheaper over here in the UK
i thought bringing the wife was a good idea,oh well there is allways the vinho
santaanita Hope Mrs doesn't see this

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Originally Posted by Jackie67
Hi.we just moved over in December.most things over here seem to be on offer at some point
i Jackie did you find getting the NHR easy to sort out or did you use someone to follow it for you.
Also did you find somewhere to rent easily as I just can't seem to find a nice property in Cascais that is reasonably priced and there doesn't seem to much on the market

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Originally Posted by Karmal123
I thought that with a car you had to own it for a year here before you could take it over is that right
Seems no point in bringing over a rhd car

TECertainly the resale value of a RHD isn't as high as a LHD & one must remember the vehicle can't be resold within 5 years without repaying the tax on a pro rata basis but here's the full details:

Each adult new immigrant is allowed to import one motor vehicle free of import tax IF (note the big IF) the vehicle meets the required criteria which is:

The vehicle must have been registered to the importer for at least 12 months previously (in the country it's coming from), the importer must provide a Certificate of Conformity or if the vehicle was manufactured pre CoC they will accept a downloaded copy of the original sales brochure that shows the tech spec of the vehicle.

The vehicle must be standard or any changes to the vehicle must be listed on a letter from a main dealer or manufacturer listing all changes from standard stating & that all said changes from standard are acceptable replacements.

The matriculation process must be started within 6 months of the applicant getting his/her Residencia. Whilst you can do the matriculation process yourself, it's much easier if you have a local agent do it for you & current (at time of writing (August 2016)) cost is usually about €400 plus the one off matriculation inspection of about €125 + annual road tax.

Road tax is calculated on engine size & emissions and priced as a new car on the date of matriculation not on year of manufacture. If you do go the tax free import route, you are not allowed to sell the car for 5 years unless you repay the tax you've avoided on a pro rata basis ie 20% per year.

If you pay the import tax it's calculated on age of vehicle, engine size & emissions not on value & is often VERY expensive, especially for cars with large engines/high emissions & some cars can cost in excess of €20k.

You're allowed to keep a foreign registered car in Portugal for 180 days maximum before you either matriculate it or remove it back to the country it came from for a further 180 days.

If you have a foreign registered car in Portugal, it must be taxed, tested & insured in it’s country of registration all the time it’s in Portugal & if the GNR catch you with an overstaying vehicle or without tax, test or insurance, they can & often do, permanently confiscate the vehicle which they will then sell or destroy.

Importing and Registering Classic Cars in Portugal
Classic cars can be driven freely into Portugal providing they are for personal, temporary use and have the necessary vehicle taxation, insurance, and documentation.
Those wishing to import a classic car permanently into Portugal may drive the car for four days before registering it with the customs (Alfândegas).
Vehicle tax (Imposto Automóvel) must be paid for all classic cars
Vehicles made before 1960 are taxed at a lower rate
Classic cars brought into Portugal on a permanent basis must meet the following legal requirements:
Be classified by the International Classic Car Federation (Fédération Internationale des Véhicule Anciens, FIVA)
Have a Classic Car Certificate (Certificado de Automóvel Antigo) from FIVA or ACP AKA a classic car passport.
Have a Technical Logbook/Manual (Ficha Técnica) from FIVA or other competent organisation. They will accept an ordinary workshop manual or ecopy of such.
Have a colour photograph of the vehicle which also goes in the FIVA classic car passport
Have a vehicle Logbook (Livrete) and Owner's Document (Título de Propridade) issued in the name of the owner/driver from the country of import.
Have the original and latest commercial purchase receipt (Factura Comercial)
Have an Authority to Circulate Document (Guia de Circulação) issued by Customs (Alfândegas) which is issued on arrival
Vehicles from the USA, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, India or the UK must meet European Union homologation approval standards if the vehicle is more than 30 years old. This means headlights, running lights & indicators etc might need to be changed.
Vehicles over 30 years old may be classified as having cultural and historic interest to Portuguese State Heritage and might not need to undergo any kind of homologation adaptations such as catalytic converters etc.
As a European Union member state Portugal adheres to the Mutual Recognition Scheme which means that the IMTT needs to be sure that any vehicle imported into Portugal is suitable for use on Portuguese roads. The driver/owner must provide documentary evidence from FIVA or the manufacturer of any physical alterations made to the vehicle.
Import duty
A classic vehicle may be imported into Portugal tax-free provided:
The vehicle is for private use only.
The vehicle has been used by its registered owner in their former country for at least 12 months previously.
The owner has submitted a copy of passport, driver's licence, residency (or application), tax details (fiscal number).
A certificate of cancellation of residence issued by the person's consulate. The consulate may charge you for this but if you use an agent to do the matriculation this document may sometimes not be required.
The Portuguese Classic Cars Club (Clube Português de Automóveis Antigos) has a lot of useful information (in Portuguese).
Clube Português de Automóveis Antigos (Head Office)
At: Rua Duque de Saldanha 308, 4300-094 Porto
Tel: 225 377 699 / 225 362 128
If coming from/importing your classic or non classic vehicle from a non EU country, you need to list it on the certificate of baggage (in the name of the registered owner) that you must obtain from the Portuguese Embassy or High Commission in the country you’re coming from BEFORE you leave & to do that, you will need:
Registration document of the vehicle (that shows the car has been registered in your name for at least 12 months)
Export Clearance Certificate
Employment letter or letter from bookkeeper stating you were employed
Signed declaration stating that you are going to Portugal for good.
Drivers licence
Passport that shows your residence permit in the country you’re coming from.
Online calculator for both import & annual road tax here: IUC - Imposto Único de Circulação 2017
NOTE: Classic vehicles can sometimes be exempt from the annual road tax fee if you can get it registered as a car of historical interest to Portugal & to do that, you need to join & remain a member of ACP & ACP/ Classicos who will inspect the vehicle & then issue an annual certificate that you then present to the fiscal office every year.
This however does only allow limited mileage but the upside is it also allows for very inexpensive insurance. I only pay in the region of €36 per year for a classic car with a 5.9 litre engine.

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We have just arrived with the first load of stuff, including all electrical goods, which are much cheaper/better in the UK. The washing machine we will have to try and find here and since the house has a fridge, that is us done, now it is time to change all the plugs.

I did think about buying my S/H Vespa (125GTS) here but prices are ridiculous and since we are here for (just) under 6 months a year, I can get a minter in the UK for around £2,500.

We will keep a complete set of clothes here, mostly bought in the UK and France, so we can Easyjet in if needs be and apart from baked beans that's it.
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Originally Posted by AllanB
I did think about buying my S/H Vespa (125GTS) here but prices are ridiculous and since we are here for (just) under 6 months a year, I can get a minter in the UK for around £2,500.
I'd only bring the Vespa over if it's left hand drive

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I'd only bring the Vespa over if it's left hand drive

You should be on the radio with jokes like that.....
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You should be on the radio with jokes like that.....
Remember in Portugal you have to dismount to the right.
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Remember in Portugal you have to dismount to the right.
What has that to do with a scooter, besides we keep the curtains closed at all times.
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What has that to do with a scooter, besides we keep the curtains closed at all times.
What side of the road is the traffic when you stop ?
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