Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 6031596)

Germany and Gib/Spain.

Originally Posted by septimus (Post 6031604)

I do-not think that GID/SPAIN are one place?

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 6031611)

Three countries then. Although technically Gib is not a country.

Tell me.

Did Jim Henson work you with his left or right hand?:zzz:

Originally Posted by aaron and jo (Post 6031640)

Capital
(and largest city) Gibraltar
36°8′N, 5°21′W
Official languages English
Demonym Gibraltarian
Government British Overseas Territory
- Head of state Queen Elizabeth II

so your fluent in english to be able to live there then.

Mein Deutsch ist nicht zu schlecht! Für die Jahre studierte er eigentlich nie wollte dort leben du nicht meine Art zu leben:eek:


Por isso o meu amigo, que vivem em portugal é grande. Eu apenas desejo i poderia falar a língua tão boa como a ti mesmo, então não seria difíci

Originally Posted by GRC (Post 6031245)

OK - let's get some metrics here:-

On a scale of 0 - 5:-

Level 0 - can't even say Bom Dia properly and / or has no intention of changing this situation because - hey - I'm English and it's the universal language ;)

Level 1 - very little - can say Bom Dia, Obrigado, se faz favor, vinho tinto / branco / verde / rose por favor, uma bica, numbers 1 -10, grand, pequeno, mais or menos etc., don't really do accents :D

Level 2 - little - can read a restaurant menu in Portuguese, ask for particular items in the supermarket, butcher etc., say any number, know days of the week, months, colours, how to recognise and respond to questions about your address, telephone number etc., know basic verbs like quer, ir, beber, ler, ser, ter, estar etc. in present, past and future plus a reasonable range of adjectives and adverbs, uses accents correctly (mostly), frequent use of "pode repetir" in conversation, ability to say hello / how are you to friends / neighbours and understand the essence of a response that's more than "ta bem" :eek:

Level 3 - average - can discuss (perhaps with some difficulty) problems with buildings, cars, official documents. Can synthesise an approximation to any general sentiment even if the Portuguese is not good in terms of subject - verb - object, genders, tenses, adjectives, adverbs etc. Can have a simple conversation using present, simple past, imperfect and future of most common verbs, understand most of the TV news, read newspapers etc. :thumbup:

Level 4 - lots - can converse in Portuguese without significant difficulty, although some more complex / technical / medical etc. terms may be difficult; occasionally consults dictionary; never has to ask "falar ingles"?, kind of equivalent to an "O"-Level / GCSE in Portuguese

Level 5 - fluent - no problems, even if your accent / dialect sounds weird :thumbsup:

So, for us:-

November 2006 - arrived in Portugal - Level 0 BUT with
(a) reasonable French (which has helped quite a lot) and (b) good friends close by who speak very good Portuguese

Beginning 2007 - Level 1

March 2008 - Level 2 - 2.25 ;)

Looking to be Level 3 by end of 2008 :eek: and Level 4 after 5 years :eek::eek:

Over to you . . . :cool:

Originally Posted by septimus (Post 6031647)

Please do-not do that,
You will have him thinking

Originally Posted by aaron and jo (Post 6031677)

jim henson mr septimus, was the man who invented the muppets!
technically he couldn't of controlled us by either hand as we are NOT muppets and he is dead.:rofl::rofl:
so obviously someones cage has truely been rattled as we have a valid opinion and now they have to resort to so called intelectual insult.
our point is that not everyone has the time in there life to learn a new language before moving to another country.