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Shanorme Jan 7th 2022 8:39 pm

Some Commodity Codes
 
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Unfortunately, my final packing list was saved as a .pdf. I have taken screenshots of most of what I did (removing some duplications there were pages of boxes of books), also removing personal details for obvious reasons but this should be helpful - rather than having to research every commodity code, as I had to!!

I have attached again as a .pdf

NSG666 Jan 7th 2022 10:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13086869)
Unfortunately, my final packing list was saved as a .pdf. I have taken screenshots of most of what I did (removing some duplications there were pages of boxes of books), also removing personal details for obvious reasons but this should be helpful - rather than having to research every commodity code, as I had to!!

I have attached again as a .pdf

Thanks very much for posting this although looking through it feels a bit like rummaging through your personal belongings. I do hope that nobody feels it's appropriate to comment on what you chose to ship out.

Alan PT Jan 7th 2022 11:54 pm

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We shipped what was, in retrospect, a load of unnecessary junk, so I'm in no position to comment :lol:

Shanorme Jan 8th 2022 4:49 am

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Originally Posted by NSG666 (Post 13086882)
Thanks very much for posting this although looking through it feels a bit like rummaging through your personal belongings. I do hope that nobody feels it's appropriate to comment on what you chose to ship out.

A lot of it was replacing cheap junk we had out here. Some of it was just really useful and much was sentimental (books, photos, etc).

sportpix Jan 8th 2022 2:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13086869)
Unfortunately, my final packing list was saved as a .pdf. I have taken screenshots of most of what I did (removing some duplications there were pages of boxes of books), also removing personal details for obvious reasons but this should be helpful - rather than having to research every commodity code, as I had to!!

I have attached again as a .pdf

OMG😩. They want every single item listed with cost? I’ve been chucking stuff ever since I got back in October but it sounds like I need to start again😢. And what actually is a certificate of compliance? Does that mean I need on for my desktop Mac and also another one for wife’s? Maybe I should have relocated to Bosnia or somewhere else with lesss bureaucracy 😕

Shanorme Jan 8th 2022 7:21 pm

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This is a CE certificate for the Dualit toaster I packed. Dualit were easy to deal with, many other companies couldn't be bothered.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...2d71aec264.png

sportpix Jan 8th 2022 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13087042)
This is a CE certificate for the Dualit toaster I packed. Dualit were easy to deal with, many other companies couldn't be bothered.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...2d71aec264.png

Thank you for sharing all of this information. This is a massive help to me. I’d buy you a beer 🍺 but as I’m 6,000 miles away I can only raise a glass to you. Very good Australian Shiraz, of course 😀

Shanorme Jan 8th 2022 9:29 pm

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Not a problem. I wish I'd had a list like this when I was doing it so hopefully, it saves time and hassle for others.

appman999 Jan 8th 2022 10:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13086869)
Unfortunately, my final packing list was saved as a .pdf. I have taken screenshots of most of what I did (removing some duplications there were pages of boxes of books), also removing personal details for obvious reasons but this should be helpful - rather than having to research every commodity code, as I had to!!

I have attached again as a .pdf

That is really very helpful, have you actually moved your belongings yet? Are the values all subject to 23% IVA on arrival?

Hettyb Jan 8th 2022 11:00 pm

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Originally Posted by NSG666 (Post 13086882)
Thanks very much for posting this although looking through it feels a bit like rummaging through your personal belongings. I do hope that nobody feels it's appropriate to comment on what you chose to ship out.

I just thought 'What interesting people!'.

Shanorme Jan 9th 2022 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by appman999 (Post 13087062)
That is really very helpful, have you actually moved your belongings yet? Are the values all subject to 23% IVA on arrival?

Yes, we have moved our belongings and yes, 23% IVA. It took a few weeks to clear through Customs - we had a Custom's agent. The 23% IVA is also levied on the transport charged.

Shanorme Jan 9th 2022 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by Hettyb (Post 13087066)
I just thought 'What interesting people!'.

I'm not sure if that's a compliment or an insult. :lol:

Hettyb Jan 9th 2022 2:07 am

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13087076)
I'm not sure if that's a compliment or an insult. :lol:

:lol:

Annetje Jan 9th 2022 4:21 am

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13087075)
Yes, we have moved our belongings and yes, 23% IVA. It took a few weeks to clear through Customs - we had a Custom's agent. The 23% IVA is also levied on the transport charged.

I still don't understand you had to pay IVA on your personal belongings when you move permanently to Portugal (Did you ?) or maybe I'm misunderstanding something ?
Here is a moving company who claims one doesn't have to pay this if one fulfils certain conditions :

https://clickmoves.com/moving-to-por...xit/ClickMoves has been advised by Portuguese Customs that there will be no import tax, duty or VAT to pay on used household goods and personal effects, as long as those relocating have:

Lived outside of Portugal for more than 12 months. And that Portugal is now your primary residence

AND they have owned everything being imported for more than 6 months.

AND they do not sell any of these items in Portugal.

AND they are importing their goods within 12 months of their permanent arrival in Portugal.


Shanorme Jan 9th 2022 7:24 am

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"Lived outside of Portugal for more than 12 months. And that Portugal is now your primary residence" -yes, a nasty little sentence with many connotations. I have owned a 'fully furnished' property for several years. I have had an NIF number for many years. I have 'residence'..... lots of information that make it less straight forward and this IS according to MULTIPLE transport companies because I did get several quotes. The message stayed the sam though. You will of course discover that for yourself and when you do, please make use of my commodity code list.

Annetje Jan 9th 2022 7:55 pm

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Excuse me for trying to help.
I'm out.

appman999 Jan 9th 2022 10:25 pm

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Just FYI as Annetje said: Certificado de Bagagem - Consulado Geral de Portugal em Londres

However you have to jump through some hoops.


Shanorme Jan 9th 2022 11:02 pm

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Yes, I am aware thank you but as previously said, there were other issues complicating my ability to do that. Many people will be able to, which is good for them.

appman999 Jan 9th 2022 11:23 pm

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The official link was also for those who come to this thread seeking information, sorry it doesn't work for you.

NSG666 Jan 9th 2022 11:42 pm

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This thread was started is a result of requests on another thread so it might not make sense to some.

https://britishexpats.com/forum/port...rtugal-938630/

If moving your personal possessions from the UK to Portugal you may be eligible to move them free of duties and taxes and your starting point should be the link in post 17

However, if you find that you do not satisfy the requirements (as Shrnome didn't) then you will need to create your own list similar to that Sharnome has posted at the very beginning of this thread. Sharnome kindly posted this to try and save those falling into the latter category some time and hassle.

sportpix Jan 11th 2022 1:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13087075)
Yes, we have moved our belongings and yes, 23% IVA. It took a few weeks to clear through Customs - we had a Custom's agent. The 23% IVA is also levied on the transport charged.

Would you recommend doing this through a customs agent and if so where can I find one and what roughly do they charge for their services? Thanks, R

Shanorme Jan 11th 2022 7:19 pm

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I did it through Algarve express who engaged a Custom's Clearing Company. The Company they engaged was Faotir - International Transport Society of Algarve Lda. Just to be clear, you still have to compile your own packing list. The charge for the Custom's Agent was approximately €150 (from what I remember, I'd have to go back and find the various invoices) and the charge from Custom's itself was just over €1,400. This included IVA & duties.

sportpix Jan 16th 2022 4:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13087580)
I did it through Algarve express who engaged a Custom's Clearing Company. The Company they engaged was Faotir - International Transport Society of Algarve Lda. Just to be clear, you still have to compile your own packing list. The charge for the Custom's Agent was approximately €150 (from what I remember, I'd have to go back and find the various invoices) and the charge from Custom's itself was just over €1,400. This included IVA & duties.

does the customs agent offer any advice or do they just handle the dreaded paperwork? Also, with reference to the certificate of compliance that you posted, I went into the Apple shop this morning to see if they could produce such a thing for the various computers my wife and I have and which we plan to ship. They told me they could not provide the certificate as they are not required in HK. This puzzles me as our computers here are exactly the same as apple computers in Europe. I can’t understand why I would need a certificate…

Shanorme Jan 17th 2022 6:55 pm

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They just deal with the paperwork.

Some certificates can be found online and as for the no need for a certificate - if they are shipping anything electrical to the EU, they will need one. It means that the good supplied meets the required standards of the country/countries it's being exported to.

sportpix Jan 18th 2022 2:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Shanorme (Post 13088715)
They just deal with the paperwork.

Some certificates can be found online and as for the no need for a certificate - if they are shipping anything electrical to the EU, they will need one. It means that the good supplied meets the required standards of the country/countries it's being exported to.

Many thanks for that. Googled Apple certs and found they have a location where they can be downloaded as PDFs. Also found one for the wife’s Bosch food mixer. Another box ticked …


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