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wellinever Mar 23rd 2023 5:01 am

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 
In no way on earth can the method adopted by Portugal be sensible. That would be the case even if everyone knew and obeyed the rules.
In the UK the rule is that you give way to any vehicle already on the roundabout, clearly to avoid moving vehicles from crossing lanes in front of each other.
Of course on the EN125 in the Algarve, now full of roundabouts every 5 kms, its even worse in summer with, people from the north with less roundabouts and less patients than the Algarvians, and that`s saying something.
Even more fun when you enter a roundabout with 2 lanes, and you are wanting to go straight on, only to find that there is only one lane on the exit.....when someone has entered from the first exit.
But as has been said, if you disobey the rules you can be fined in caught (only place i ever see police is at roundabouts)

BillBullock Mar 23rd 2023 7:31 pm

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 
I don't know of any roundabouts in the Algarve that have the layout shown in the GNR diagram/video. Here they tend to be much smaller with only one lane approaching and one lane at each exit. Those with 2 lanes approaching are the ones that cause a problem, especially when you have a mix of impatient drivers who want to be first, foreign drivers who are used to different rules, drivers who don't know the rules of the road in Portugal even though they live here, and drivers who stick rigidly to the roundabout rules (one in 10 drivers in Olhão). You would think that EU countries would have identical highway codes by now wouldn't you?

macliam Mar 23rd 2023 8:04 pm

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 

Originally Posted by BillBullock (Post 13181871)
I don't know of any roundabouts in the Algarve that have the layout shown in the GNR diagram/video. Here they tend to be much smaller with only one lane approaching and one lane at each exit. Those with 2 lanes approaching are the ones that cause a problem, especially when you have a mix of impatient drivers who want to be first, foreign drivers who are used to different rules, drivers who don't know the rules of the road in Portugal even though they live here, and drivers who stick rigidly to the roundabout rules (one in 10 drivers in Olhão). You would think that EU countries would have identical highway codes by now wouldn't you?

Last time I looked, traffic regulations, like so much else, is still a state responsibility......... There may be some push towards homogenization, but I wouldn't hold my breath that the Portuguese government, or any other, will cede control.

Artfuldodger128 Mar 24th 2023 1:56 am

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 
"I don't know of any roundabouts in the Algarve that have the layout shown in the GNR diagram/video"

Try the roundabout near the Lidl in Portimao, although from experience there is more chance of a collision on the roundabout after it, with Av. Sao João de Deus.

BillBullock Mar 24th 2023 3:13 am

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Artfuldodger128 (Post 13181936)
"I don't know of any roundabouts in the Algarve that have the layout shown in the GNR diagram/video"

Try the roundabout near the Lidl in Portimao, although from experience there is more chance of a collision on the roundabout after it, with Av. Sao João de Deus.

Oh, so there is one in the west.

zoff Mar 24th 2023 4:16 am

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 
I like the roundabouts and the roundabout rules in Portugal. I drive mostly in Algarve but when in Lisbon, especially near the airport, roundabouts with six or more lanes and with some lanes having traffic lights! It can be quite complicated. I end up going around a few times until I sort out wants going on :eek:

Anubis Mar 29th 2023 11:12 pm

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 

Originally Posted by riv (Post 13180676)
This morning I had just parked my car in a parking space by the side of the road. ( In a Portuguese plated , lhd, car )

The road was a simple, suburban two way road, but yes I had to go over to the left ( from my driving position ) to get into the space.

So now I was pointed against the direction of traffic.

A passing GNR police car stopped and ( quite politely ) advised it was illegal to park as I was doing. I could park there but only by turning around up ahead and coming back so that I would then be pointing in the direction of the traffic.

As far as I am aware there is such a rule in the UK as well, but only after dark.

It set me wondering : might there be other rules of the road which are traps for the unwary, and which one should become aware of ?

You must not cross a solid white line in the road, I was fined for so doing.

liveaboard Mar 30th 2023 3:42 am

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 
I had that happen to me in Spain, but he let me go with a warning.
Where I learned to drive, crossing a white line is allowed, to enter a private drive. Not so in Spain (and Portugal I see).

macliam Mar 30th 2023 6:52 am

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 

Originally Posted by liveaboard (Post 13183171)
I had that happen to me in Spain, but he let me go with a warning.
Where I learned to drive, crossing a white line is allowed, to enter a private drive. Not so in Spain (and Portugal I see).

Driving back to my place from the Algarve, you have to pass the junction off the main road as it's on left and the other side of a solid line. Some 300m further on, there is a junction to the right which you have to take, then turn back on yourself to cross both carriageways of the IC1 in order to drive back in the direction of the Algarve to the original junction. Given that it's the brow of a hill and already a black-spot, it all makes sense - but he signage is hilarious! (and the locals often ignore it anyway....)

sportpix Mar 30th 2023 9:40 pm

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 

Originally Posted by Anubis (Post 13183102)
You must not cross a solid white line in the road, I was fined for so doing.

it’s worth pointing out that none of these rules apply to motor cyclists. They seem to have a god given right to overtake everything else on the road and to do so they have to cross solid lines, even at their own peril when an artic is coming fast in the other direction. Absolute madness

Ultramarine Mar 30th 2023 11:35 pm

Re: Rules of the Road different from in UK ?
 
Is there Código da Estrada is English somewhere online?


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