Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Europe > Portugal
Reload this Page >

Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Thread Tools
 
Old Feb 16th 2019, 9:38 am
  #46  
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Location: Algarve, Portugal.
Posts: 4,478
007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute007Steve has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Originally Posted by sherbert
This came from the Portuguese consulate in the Washington DC website: Through Marriage – Embassy of Portugal
However, the other consulate website (San Francisco) says something different: https://www.portugalinsf.com/consular-services/
I'm just going to start with the apostilling and translating and gathering and will worry about language/links to culture later. The person my OH spoke to at the consulate said it had taken three years to get all the necessary documents together for her husband's citizenship. Gah.
Thanks, much obliged sherbert

007Steve is offline  
Old Aug 14th 2019, 6:12 am
  #47  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 946
sherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Cracking on with the Passport app:
- Police certificate from all countries I have lived in since the age of 16 acquired and apostilled, except FBI certificate which needs to be less than 6 months old. Will translate all at the same time.
- Next step have the OH register the marriage in Portugal when we are there in the next few months and then get print out of his citizen record (which contains an entry noting our marriage apparently).
- Links to Portuguese culture: photos/receipts of holidays in PT, nights out with local Portuguese group, membership to local Portuguese society, attendance at local Portuguese events.

... the only thing that is giving me sleepless nights now is the language requirement and mostly because I can't get a straight answer on whether it's actually an issue or not. Can anyone share their experience on this point? I will not actually be living in PT at the time of application.
sherbert is offline  
Old Aug 14th 2019, 6:14 am
  #48  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 946
sherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Originally Posted by Shah4575
Hello everyone,
i have portugese residence card i applied nationality 10 months ago by post .i tried to contact Conservatória dos registos many times but no response on phone they said wait and wait couple of days ago got email told my case number my case in in process been married for 4 years when applied was 3 years and haven’t send language test certificate so really nervous if its going to refuse or good news any one recently successful????
Shah4575 have you heard anything?
sherbert is offline  
Old Aug 14th 2019, 6:22 am
  #49  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 946
sherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Originally Posted by Red Eric
Indeed. That's the easier part.

The harder is whether you're going to need to provide proof of connections to Portugal or to the Portuguese community, whether what you might have is sufficient and whether there'd be likely to be a requirement to prove proficiency in the language in your case.

You can find out by submitting what you have and the fee and risk forfeiting it or you can pay to get a professional opinion of your likely chances of success before you start the process and more on top to get them to see it through for you, presumably. Not an enviable choice and I fully understand your wariness with regard to that industry, although I don't know whether it's the same here in PT.
I can easily prove connections to and with PT: my issue is with the language proficiency and whether as a spouse of a PT citizen not living in the country/never having lived in the county, I need to prove I can speak Portuguese. You make a good point: perhaps lawyers in PT are not as ridiculous and useless as they are in the US. I expect fees to be much lower so it would not hurt to talk to someone in the know.
sherbert is offline  
Old Aug 14th 2019, 6:33 am
  #50  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 946
sherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Originally Posted by toots sweet
Julie F
I have not followed this up as I am going to Portugal for the winter and am going tp start my application there.(hopefully avoiding the consulate).
I maybe wrong but i don't think you have to pass a language test if you are married to a Portuguese citizen.Perhaps someone can correct me if that's wrong.
toots sweet how is your application going? Any confirmation on the language test for spouses and whether it's necessary?
sherbert is offline  
Old Aug 14th 2019, 12:58 pm
  #51  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Wales/Ribatejo
Posts: 575
toots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Language test is not needed if your other half is Portuguese. That is the info I have been given. My Portuguese is getting along but not good enough to hold a conversation.Can read it enough to get the gist.
As far as applying for citizenship ... still have not gone further other than getting details of all the docs needed. Still unsure of what to do as we still intend to spend half year in Portugal and half in UK. Waiting to see what Brexit turns up.May go for dual nationality if still able to.
toots sweet is offline  
Old Aug 14th 2019, 5:15 pm
  #52  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 946
sherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Thanks! Were you thinking of giving up your current nationality then as you note "May go for dual nationality if still able to." ?
sherbert is offline  
Old Aug 15th 2019, 8:19 am
  #53  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Wales/Ribatejo
Posts: 575
toots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond reputetoots sweet has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

No. I would hope to be able to keep my UK passport.
toots sweet is offline  
Old Aug 15th 2019, 8:31 am
  #54  
 
BritInParis's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Location: Not in Paris
Posts: 18,194
BritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond reputeBritInParis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Portugal permits dual nationality so no issue there.
BritInParis is offline  
Old Sep 5th 2019, 10:32 am
  #55  
Just Joined
 
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 11
mariajoao is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

It is hard to find a solution since every case has its own particular solutions. The best advice is to talk to a specialised lawyer. It may cost a bit money, but you'll be sure on what your doing. You wont waste time.
mariajoao is offline  
Old Sep 5th 2019, 5:09 pm
  #56  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Location: central Portugal
Posts: 4,111
mfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Originally Posted by toots sweet
Language test is not needed if your other half is Portuguese. That is the info I have been given. My Portuguese is getting along but not good enough to hold a conversation.Can read it enough to get the gist.
As far as applying for citizenship ... still have not gone further other than getting details of all the docs needed. Still unsure of what to do as we still intend to spend half year in Portugal and half in UK. Waiting to see what Brexit turns up.May go for dual nationality if still able to.
Rules for citizenship through marriage changed in July last year & now no language test or links to Portuguese culture required now.

Also the latest stage of Simplex kicking in & other, simplified procedures such as PCRs no longer required for some processes.

https://www.simplex.gov.pt/

https://imigrante.sef.pt/en/
mfesharne is offline  
Old Sep 5th 2019, 5:20 pm
  #57  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 946
sherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Not sure what either of links have to do with applying for a passport?
sherbert is offline  
Old Sep 6th 2019, 6:42 am
  #58  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Location: central Portugal
Posts: 4,111
mfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond reputemfesharne has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Originally Posted by sherbert
Not sure what either of links have to do with applying for a passport?
The Simplex link tells you what Simplex is & what's happening with it & the SEF link tells you no PCR is required for some processes & that includes citizenship through marriage.

mfesharne is offline  
Old Feb 28th 2020, 10:01 pm
  #59  
BE Enthusiast
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 946
sherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond reputesherbert has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Portuguese Passport Through Marriage

Me again! I've gathered all my documents and am heading to the motherland soon. However, I'm now super confused about a couple of things. I'm currently in the US and the PT consulate has a list of documents necessary and some requirements for them that the actual application form does not state e.g. the Portuguese spouse's civil record printout must be less than 6 months old and note marital status, that all background checks must be less than 6 months old (all mine, except the FBI one are older than 6 months and it's going to be a nightmare getting them done and apostilled again), and that the marriage, if taken place in a foreign land, must first be registered with the Portuguese authorities.

The actual application form states:
- Certidão do registo de nascimento do cônjuge/membro da união de facto de nacionalidade portuguesa. (no date specified, and no need to have the civil state included)
- Certidão do registo de casamento (does not state that it has to be 'registered' in PT).
- Certificado(s) do registo criminal estrangeiro, emitido(s) no(s) seguinte(s) país(es) (does not state that they need to be less than 6 months old).

We can't even find out where/how to register a foreign marriage and my OH says his birth cert/civil record does not even have a section on it that notes his civil status.

Can anyone who has recently applied for citizenship through marriage and who were married outside of Portugal please let me know what you provided?




sherbert is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.