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macliam Mar 15th 2020 2:01 am

Re: panic buying?
 

Originally Posted by RichardHenshall (Post 12821175)
To take the UK as an example:

There are 1140 cases, 18 recoveries, 21 deaths, 20 serious/critical but 1101 with unknown outcome. The recoveries, deaths and serious/critical cases need to be compared to the number of cases in total, not to each other.

Taking Ireland as an example there have been 2 deaths and 1 recovery. That doesn't mean you're twice as likely to die as to recover because we don't yet know the outcome of the other 126 cases.

I haven't seen any recoveries reported for Ireland as yet. But you can't provide accuracy by including in a sample those who haven't been tested or for whom there is, as yet, no outcome, unless you just want to falsely water down the results. I only quoted outcomes and there are only two possibilities - you survive or you don't. As I said elsewhere (https://britishexpats.com/forum/take...930605/page98/), the question is how the mortality rate varies over time and an increased number of outcomes. The other unknown is the eventual percentage of a population who will test positive.

To take the number of deaths as a percentage of the overall population, or even of all those who test positive
would be like claiming a fault rate of only 1% in BMWs, calculated on the number with faults set against the total number of all cars - and ignoring the fact that 28% of BMW owners report faults! (these are not true numbers, just per exemplum). Misuse of statistics doesn't help anyone in the longterm.

Thairetired2016 Mar 15th 2020 3:31 am

Re: panic buying?
 

Originally Posted by liveaboard (Post 12821066)
This just in;
Yesterday [Saturday] my neighbor went to our nearby Aldi to do some panic buying, only to find he was too late.
The shop was packed with people but half the shelves were empty. Most of what he wanted to buy was no longer available.

The good people who stayed calm, behaved well, and didn't panic now have a good chance to lose some weight.
I'm a bit too heavy myself.

The last thing one should do is go into a shop packed with people.



wellinever Mar 15th 2020 4:16 am

Re: panic buying?
 
LOl....I have been stocking up on essentials like beer and butter and english cheese, some meat and milk over the past 3 weeks since this all started to kick off......today I thought I would go to my local ALdi at 2pm to do a bit of restocking myself, thinking most would be at home or at lunch........yes maybe they were cause it was pretty empty........just like the shelves !!
No eggs, no veg at all , no ice cream worth buying, fridges empty of meat, milk only little left, no english cheese. So had to make do with replenishing beer and butter stock.
Looks like early morning shopping is best plan, but then of course now gets busier.......gotta get stocked before Easter

chislenko Mar 15th 2020 10:56 am

Re: panic buying?
 
I must have misread the headline, I stocked up on 200 cocktail sausages and three dozen scotch eggs.

I thought it said picnic buying.

BEVS Mar 15th 2020 3:23 pm

Re: panic buying?
 

Originally Posted by chislenko (Post 12821414)
I must have misread the headline, I stocked up on 200 cocktail sausages and three dozen scotch eggs.

I thought it said picnic buying.

I'd come over to your gaff if it wasn't so very far away.
I'd kill for a decent scotch egg and sausage.
BEVS
New Zealand.

BillBullock Mar 16th 2020 12:59 am

Re: panic buying?
 
On my way to the dentist this morning, I passed some of the Olhão supermarkets. People were queuing up to get in. It seems likely that the staff were restricting the numbers in the shop at any one time - a good idea but I hope they were controlling the panic-buying at the same time. Got off my motorbike at Continente because I need a new thermometer having chewed the end off the last one - mercury doesn't seem to have a taste anymore, a bit like the peanuts on the bar since people started washing their hands constantly! When I saw the length of the queue, I decided not to join it and will try to measure my temperature with the jam-making thermometer in the kitchen drawer. My mouth's pretty big before anyone else makes that comment!
Interestingly, the dentist was very quiet; no customers to be seen and I got treated straight away. I had to tell a little porky though. Apparently the authorities have said you have to be in pain to get dental treatment, otherwise it's on your bike.

liveaboard Mar 16th 2020 1:07 am

Re: panic buying?
 
Just back from normal weekly shopping;
Aljezur intermarche is well stocked with almost everything. Big extra pallets of pasta, rice, and TP near the veg area.
A shortage of greek yogurt was observed. frozen veg was looking thin but not empty.
Customer numbers in the shop are being limited, causing dense queuing outside.
No one [except me] was wearing a mask, but the staff has started wearing gloves.
They don't open until 9:30 [instead of 8:30], presumably to encourage crowding.


Aldi in vista dos pineros [Odimira] was badly depleted, no rice, no pasta, no oats, but plenty of fresh veg and bread.
Crowded, short queue at times.

Wearing a mask is good practice, everyone jumps back so the 'social distance' is maintained.

No queue at fuel stations. haha.

BillBullock Mar 16th 2020 1:21 am

Re: panic buying?
 

Originally Posted by liveaboard (Post 12821607)
Just back from normal weekly shopping;
Aljezur intermarche is well stocked with almost everything. Big extra pallets of pasta, rice, and TP near the veg area.
A shortage of greek yogurt was observed. frozen veg was looking thin but not empty.
Customer numbers in the shop are being limited, causing dense queuing outside.
No one [except me] was wearing a mask, but the staff has started wearing gloves.
They don't open until 9:30 [instead of 8:30], presumably to encourage crowding.


Aldi in vista dos pineros [Odimira] was badly depleted, no rice, no pasta, no oats, but plenty of fresh veg and bread.
Crowded, short queue at times.

Wearing a mask is good practice, everyone jumps back so the 'social distance' is maintained.

No queue at fuel stations. haha.

One has to wonder why the toilet paper is now classed as a vegetable. Is it because it is bio-degradable? Come on everyone, keep the humour going. It's pretty boring otherwise for those who are self-isolating. I thought I was self-isolating on my motorbike this morning until a car pulled out in front of me.

liveaboard Mar 16th 2020 2:03 am

Re: panic buying?
 
Hope you have a sticky front tire and a quick right hand there, Bill.

I gave up bike riding after 40 years in the saddle. Had a few close calls and a couple of boo boos.

Unfortunately TP is not quickly biodegradable.
Proof is all over.

wellinever Mar 16th 2020 5:43 pm

Re: panic buying?
 
anyone know who might have stock of accurate human thermometers in Portugal?
tried all local pharmacys...nothing and no idea when stock coming in, as usual



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