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mfesharne Sep 2nd 2017 9:58 am

Non EU residency rule change
 
This might be of interest to some.

https://dre.pt/web/guest/home/-/dre/...ails/maximized
Portuguese Immigration Law New updates

Ukkram Sep 2nd 2017 1:37 pm

Re: Non EU residency rule change
 
So there goes the Golden Visa regime. No more need to purchase property of €300k anymore? Are the gates now open for the refugees?:o

Red Eric Sep 2nd 2017 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Ukkram (Post 12329925)
Are the gates now open for the refugees?:o

They already were - although that's rather a diversion from the subject of the thread.

https://www.newsdeeply.com/refugees/...economic-sense

007Steve Sep 3rd 2017 8:20 am

Re: Non EU residency rule change
 

Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12329820)

...But this is only seems to apply for non-Portuguese nationals, who have a contract of labour.... right?

mfesharne Sep 3rd 2017 8:30 am

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Originally Posted by 007Steve (Post 12330262)
...But this is only seems to apply for non-Portuguese nationals, who have a contract of labour.... right?


As I read it the change applies to non EU passport holders who enter on a visa such as Schengen & it then allows them to apply for a D type residency/work visa whilst here in Portugal.

If I'm right, it'd be a massive help for people such as white Africans (amongst others) who need to get out of their own country, have the skills to earn a living here (even on a self employed basis) but lack the lump sum for the Golden Visa.

007Steve Sep 3rd 2017 10:55 am

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Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12330265)
As I read it the change applies to non EU passport holders who enter on a visa such as Schengen & it then allows them to apply for a D type residency/work visa whilst here in Portugal.

If I'm right, it'd be a massive help for people such as white Africans (amongst others) who need to get out of their own country, have the skills to earn a living here (even on a self employed basis) but lack the lump sum for the Golden Visa.

Aahhh... the fog clears. Ingenious pre-planning.
So, has Trump bought his place, or the development sit/s yet?... Being a golfer I guess he can ue the existing GV scheme to shift money on & off shore.

mfesharne Sep 3rd 2017 11:12 am

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I could well have misunderstood it but if I have got it right it could make a massive difference to Portugal & many people with good skills but not so much capital & that can't be a bad thing.

Although I have to say I find it very surprising that Portugal can make it's own rules that don't toe the EU line.

EMR Sep 3rd 2017 1:31 pm

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Originally Posted by mfesharne (Post 12330329)
I could well have misunderstood it but if I have got it right it could make a massive difference to Portugal & many people with good skills but not so much capital & that can't be a bad thing.

Although I have to say I find it very surprising that Portugal can make it's own rules that don't toe the EU line.

One of Maddonas adopted has joined the Benfica academy ,
As the report said she will probably have the 500k as loose change.
Given the views of those coming from S.A.and Zimbabwe , Portugal is the last place I would want them.

Ukkram Sep 3rd 2017 1:39 pm

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I think it is only me and mfesharne that come from Africa and I for one, am not happy with this news.

mfesharne Sep 3rd 2017 6:00 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12330377)
One of Maddonas adopted has joined the Benfica academy ,
As the report said she will probably have the 500k as loose change.
Given the views of those coming from S.A.and Zimbabwe , Portugal is the last place I would want them.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement & perhaps verging very closely on racism don't you think?

Perhaps this might be a more reasonable way of justification for them coming in.

Is world ignoring white genocide?

I'll refrain from posting the more graphic details & images out of respect for the victims.

Ukkram Sep 3rd 2017 6:25 pm

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EMR has obviously never been to Africa. I had to send my kids to the UK as Africa is not meant for white people to live in. Me and wife had to flee to PT.

mfesharne Sep 3rd 2017 6:50 pm

Re: Non EU residency rule change
 

Originally Posted by Ukkram (Post 12330522)
EMR has obviously never been to Africa. I had to send my kids to the UK as Africa is not meant for white people to live in. Me and wife had to flee to PT.

You're dead right on that.

Still, the good news is no-one shoots at you or tries to hijack you & there's no need to carry a sidearm here. ;)

I'm all for more Saffers under persecution being allowed in.

mfesharne Sep 3rd 2017 7:18 pm

Re: Non EU residency rule change
 

Originally Posted by Ukkram (Post 12330380)
I think it is only me and mfesharne that come from Africa and I for one, am not happy with this news.

I think it depends on how you look at it....... As I see it, the rule change should make it easier for white Africans whatever their cultural backgrounds that have a good work ethic, skills & the culture to fit in to get out of the hole they're in & make a safe & successful new life & that can't be a bad thing.

EMR Sep 3rd 2017 7:28 pm

Re: Non EU residency rule change
 

Originally Posted by Ukkram (Post 12330522)
EMR has obviously never been to Africa. I had to send my kids to the UK as Africa is not meant for white people to live in. Me and wife had to flee to PT.

Africa is a huge continent not a village.
You might as well say that you would not send your kids to Asia.
Given the past history of S.A. I can understand that those whise who benefited during those times are not comfortable or welcome now.
But moving their was their choice and in the case of some I know their reasons for going there were because of the government in power at that time.
They are not owed anything by the countries they left.

mfesharne Sep 3rd 2017 7:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Ukkram (Post 12330553)
The only reason I'm not happy about this is that PT may become non European in the long term. Overrun by non Europeans demanding their laws and foods.

Europe is for Europeans and should stay that way.

Although it could be argued that the vast majority of white Africans come from a European background & are far more culturally related to Europe than those currently trying to get to Europe in blow up boats etc.


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