NataHH

Can one of our kids British and UK resident open a Portuguese bank account? Does she need a NIF number? She is a share holder on our onshore property. She only wants to keep a few hundred pounds in a current account for spending money. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

ARCNET

In a word yes.

RichardHenshall

Did she not need an NIF for her shareholding to be properly recorded?

NataHH

Not quite sure how it works it was set up by the lawyer when the house was bought and she was added to the onshore property at company House in the UK. How do you get an additional shareholder NIF card?

RichardHenshall

I assumed that onshore referred to a Portuguese property and would therefore be a Portuguese company. Isn't any other nationality of company, by definition, offshore?

A shareholding in a UK company would be irrelevant to Portugal.

If it's only for occasional holiday use, an account with Wise, or similar, would probably be cheaper and easier to set up as no NIF would be needed.

Listen Very Carefully

I would definitely go for a Wise multi currency account especially as they are only looking for spending money access The card can be used at ATMs and in shops restaurants etc Basically you will pay money into the Wise UK account then it can be transferred into € before you go or you can just use it and get the spot rate as you spend
https://www.monito.com/en/send-money...rrency-account

NataHH

Onshore means that holding assets and investments takes place in your home country. It is a UK company that bought the property and all shareholders reside in the UK.
But, as suggested, a Wise account is probably the best option. I used to have a Revolut card but closed it because it is not FCA regulated.

Red Eric

As far as the PT authorities are concerned, that would constitute the property being owned by an offshore company.

SgtTroy

Yes, but from a country with mutual automatic exchange of information (OECD model) as opposed to a jurisdiction with no such exchange of information.
Hence, hardly any negative consequences, save for the endless paperwork.

SgtTroy

Totally unnecessary, considering the time and the cost for doing so, as well as the purpose of that account.

Few hundred pounds could be exchanged cash, at a good rate, with much less hassle.

And, yes, she needs a NIF for opening a bank account.

Valeron33

I take the liberty to answer late to this
I strongly do not recommend to use Wise account, a lot's of People in portugal struggle with this neobank.
There is a lot of possibilité to open a bank account and get a nif online since 2023, check Anchorless or bordr

Listen Very Carefully

I have never had a problem with Wise in fact the very opposite

Jon-Bxl

I agree I am delighted with WISE. And it's rare to get a negative comment on the forum. But if there are any specifics it would be interesting to hear and analyse them.

https://britishexpats.com/forum/france-76/money-transfer-947473/#post13184990https://britishexpats.com/forum/france-76/money-transfer-947473/#post13184990

Re NIF

Payshop online

Just search on the web for how to do it...

However for the odd bit of spending money it seems overkill (as it was for my problem... )
Jon

1711JohnB

Why not just ask you bank for a second debit card or give her yours to use when she is here. No one checks the things these days. We have used our daughters without any issues and I suppose yes, if it did get checked their might be a few questions to answer.

riv

I believe you can get cards ( eg from the Post Office in UK ) which you can pre - load with cash. And then use abroad for casual spending in shops, restaurants and so on.
I think they are aimed at such as students on gap years whose parents can credit the card as and when.

Anyone have more specific details on such cards, costs and so on ? Do you pay a commission on each transaction or how do they work ?