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Old Jan 19th 2020, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by wellinever
Bigger question to some might be, during the transition period will Brits be able to choose to be taxed as a Portuguese, when selling a property?
And if so can they can reinvest in any EU country, (will UK still be considered an EU country during the transition period?) any, or all of the proceeds of sale and not then pay CGT on that part which is reinvested and only pay tax on 50% of any remaining gain. Unlike non residents of the EU who pay 28% tax on all of the gain.
That's not been finalized but as it stands you can move your money back to the UK until Dec2020..............or you can invest in another EU country with no penalties for the foreseeable future of the EU.
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Old Jan 20th 2020, 7:23 am
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Of course Brits will be able to move their money wherever they want to, question is during transition will the Portuguese Tax authorities allow reinvestment in a property in the UK during the transition period to end Dec 2020.
That will need 2 decisions:
1) Are British property owners in Portugal considered as members of the EU by the Portuguese tax authorities, and
2) WIll the UK itself be considered as still being part of the EU
My guess is that the answer is `no` in both cases, as there would be no advantage to either the EU or Portugal.

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Old Jan 20th 2020, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by wellinever
I would say very useful, as i see here a possibility to extend to 2022 !!!
Quote from article:
`The same would apply to British citizens moving to the EU during the transition period, which is expected to end on 31 December 2020, but it could be extended up to December 2022. This is because freedom of movement would continue to apply during this time.`
BJ already made it clear that there will be no extension to 2022. Better not to have any hopes.
I'm not even hopeful that we will even have till end 2020. It looks more like a no deal is a good chance.
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Old Jan 20th 2020, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by Thairetired2016
BJ already made it clear that there will be no extension to 2022. Better not to have any hopes.
I'm not even hopeful that we will even have till end 2020. It looks more like a no deal is a good chance.
It is a theoretical possibility, but only if the EU failed to ratify it, and the storm within Europe if any country vetoed the Agreement would be immense, so I think that to be highly unlikely. Why do you feel there is a ‘good chance’?
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Old Jan 20th 2020, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by Thairetired2016
BJ already made it clear that there will be no extension to 2022. Better not to have any hopes.
I'm not even hopeful that we will even have till end 2020. It looks more like a no deal is a good chance.
I agree completely. Everyone is assuming there will definitely be a transition period until the end of this year but it's not impossible that there won't be.......... and if there's one thing this last 2 1/2 years should have taught us it's that no politician of any party should ever be entirely trusted to keep his/her word.
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Old Jan 20th 2020, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by Diddion
It is a theoretical possibility, but only if the EU failed to ratify it, and the storm within Europe if any country vetoed the Agreement would be immense, so I think that to be highly unlikely. Why do you feel there is a ‘good chance’?
The WA got watered down by BoJo. It is no longer the paper that was agreed with EU.
Workers rights, EU standards e.g. are cancelled. Will the EU agree to the unilaterally modified agreement? He can then easily blame EU for not giving in. BoJo's cozying up to Trump for a deal. He travels to US before negotiations with EU begin. Doesn't sound good for me. May be I've become too pessimistic over the outcome.
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Certainly Javids talk today will for sure not go down well in Brussels. Be interesting to see if they react.
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Old Jan 20th 2020, 12:53 pm
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It should not impact the Withdrawal Agreement, though could well generate a poorer trade deal or a no trade deal exit, either of which would hardly be good news for the UK. Seems a pretty aggressive stance, to me.
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It may be too late for the 1st meeting today to register, but if any of you are located near the places listed below then maybe you could go there & ask questions???

Upcoming outreach events

20 Jan 6.30pm Azoris Angra Garden, Praça Velha, 9700-201 Angra do Heroísmo Register for the Angra do Heroísmo event here
21 Jan 12.00pm Hotel do Canal, Largo Doutor Manuel de Arriaga, 9900-026 Horta Register for the Horta event here
22 Jan 5.30pm Grand Hotel Açores Atlântico, Av Infante D. Henrique 113, 9500-150 Ponta Delgada Register for the Ponta Delgada event here
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Old Jan 20th 2020, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Euroguy
It may be too late for the 1st meeting today to register, but if any of you are located near the places listed below then maybe you could go there & ask questions???

Upcoming outreach events

20 Jan 6.30pm Azoris Angra Garden, Praça Velha, 9700-201 Angra do Heroísmo Register for the Angra do Heroísmo event here
21 Jan 12.00pm Hotel do Canal, Largo Doutor Manuel de Arriaga, 9900-026 Horta Register for the Horta event here
22 Jan 5.30pm Grand Hotel Açores Atlântico, Av Infante D. Henrique 113, 9500-150 Ponta Delgada Register for the Ponta Delgada event here
mmm, don't think we have too many people from the Azores here......
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Originally Posted by macliam
mmm, don't think we have too many people from the Azores here......
LOL....thanks for the geography lesson....l had no idea those places were in the Azores!!!

Which makes me wonder if many Brits do actually live in the Azores???
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LOL....thanks for the geography lesson....l had no idea those places were in the Azores!!!

Which makes me wonder if many Brits do actually live in the Azores???
Based on 2018 data, there are 212 UK nationals in Açores, 120 male & 92 female.
They make 6% of foreign population.
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It should not impact the Withdrawal Agreement, though could well generate a poorer trade deal or a no trade deal exit, either of which would hardly be good news for the UK. Seems a pretty aggressive stance, to me.
Just received latest update from Austrian Chancellory: it clearly states "in the event of ratification of WA...".
Nothing is for sure yet. It helps to read what the resp. country publication says. The info from the Brit. side makes you believe all is sorted out.

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Originally Posted by Thairetired2016
Just received latest update from Austrian Chancellory: it clearly states "in the event of ratification of WA...".
Nothing is for sure yet. It helps to read what the resp. country publication says. The info from the Brit. side makes you believe all is sorted out.
Absolutely! If migrating or living in PT, read SEF/PT gov sites. You'll be mad to rely on uk gov sites.
Try bringing out uk gov site printout on Camara/SEF appointment!
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Old Jan 24th 2020, 1:21 pm
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We will know within the next week.

But I am really worried: when it is all done and dusted, do you think we will be able to find anything else quite so meaty to speculate endlessly (and I certainly include myself!) about? Got to worry about something, you know.
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