importing a car - any particular tips for lower tax?
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Secondhand cars are very expensive in Portugal, as an example in the UK I have a 2007 Vauxhall Astra Twintop convertible, in Portugal that is sold as an Opel Astra cabrio. The best I would be able to get privately in the UK for my immaculate model, low mileage car, unblemished car would £1500. In Portugal as advertised in standvirtual the same car is €9800 and thats the cheapest with almost double the mileage and dirty diesel to boot.
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If you have owned the vehicle for more than 6 months, and can prove it, before your move to Portugal, you can import it as part of your goods and chattels with no import tax to pay, but you do have to rematriculate it to Portuguese plates so with a UK car that can cause complications but is not impossible (one car per person of the household can be brought in).
Perhaps someone can confirm if this arrangement is for all new residents or only under NHR scheme?
Perhaps someone can confirm if this arrangement is for all new residents or only under NHR scheme?
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Labour here is 20€ per hour.
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Thanks, all!
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Just looking at road tax in Portugal....
AS I stated earlier in this thread, my car is a Vauxhall Astra Twintop 1796 cc petrol producing 185gm CO2. (unlucky)
The car was first registered in UK on 14th July 2007.
So if I was to import it the annual road tax would be................................................ .................................................. .......... €314pa
If the car had been first registered in the UK in June 2007 or before the annual road tax would be.................................... €140pa
But now if I look, for example at a 1996cc BMW diesel first registered in UK before July 2007 that would cost .................. €43pa
AS I stated earlier in this thread, my car is a Vauxhall Astra Twintop 1796 cc petrol producing 185gm CO2. (unlucky)
The car was first registered in UK on 14th July 2007.
So if I was to import it the annual road tax would be................................................ .................................................. .......... €314pa
If the car had been first registered in the UK in June 2007 or before the annual road tax would be.................................... €140pa
But now if I look, for example at a 1996cc BMW diesel first registered in UK before July 2007 that would cost .................. €43pa
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My 2 liter diesel year 2000 costs [as I recall] around E43.
On the other hand my petrol 2.3 liter car costs E240 or so. It would be the same rate if it was 2 liter, but more if it's over 2.6 liters.
Why are petrol cars despised while diesel is noble?
No, not for the environment. Diesel is arguably worse, and certainly no better.
On the other hand my petrol 2.3 liter car costs E240 or so. It would be the same rate if it was 2 liter, but more if it's over 2.6 liters.
Why are petrol cars despised while diesel is noble?
No, not for the environment. Diesel is arguably worse, and certainly no better.
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Re: importing a car - any particular tips for lower tax?
Just looking at road tax in Portugal....
AS I stated earlier in this thread, my car is a Vauxhall Astra Twintop 1796 cc petrol producing 185gm CO2. (unlucky)
The car was first registered in UK on 14th July 2007.
So if I was to import it the annual road tax would be................................................ .................................................. .......... €314pa
If the car had been first registered in the UK in June 2007 or before the annual road tax would be.................................... €140pa
But now if I look, for example at a 1996cc BMW diesel first registered in UK before July 2007 that would cost .................. €43pa
AS I stated earlier in this thread, my car is a Vauxhall Astra Twintop 1796 cc petrol producing 185gm CO2. (unlucky)
The car was first registered in UK on 14th July 2007.
So if I was to import it the annual road tax would be................................................ .................................................. .......... €314pa
If the car had been first registered in the UK in June 2007 or before the annual road tax would be.................................... €140pa
But now if I look, for example at a 1996cc BMW diesel first registered in UK before July 2007 that would cost .................. €43pa
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something like a BMW 1996 diesel with between 120 - 180gm CO2
€228 if 2007 (after July)
€238 if 2008
€249 if 2009
€259 if between 2010 and 2016
€228 if 2007 (after July)
€238 if 2008
€249 if 2009
€259 if between 2010 and 2016
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My 2 liter diesel year 2000 costs [as I recall] around E43.
On the other hand my petrol 2.3 liter car costs E240 or so. It would be the same rate if it was 2 liter, but more if it's over 2.6 liters.
Why are petrol cars despised while diesel is noble?
No, not for the environment. Diesel is arguably worse, and certainly no better.
On the other hand my petrol 2.3 liter car costs E240 or so. It would be the same rate if it was 2 liter, but more if it's over 2.6 liters.
Why are petrol cars despised while diesel is noble?
No, not for the environment. Diesel is arguably worse, and certainly no better.
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And over 180 gm emissions? Just so we're comparing apples with apples.
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Surely there's a strong chance that diesel will be banned altogether within a few years? Some cities have already done this?
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I don't really love either substance, I just find it odd that new reasons are always popping up to maintain the historical tax structure.
#28
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It was known LONG before that; and diesel has been taxed at a far lower rate than petrol since ww2, since the times when 'environment' hadn't been heard of yet.
I don't really love either substance, I just find it odd that new reasons are always popping up to maintain the historical tax structure.
I don't really love either substance, I just find it odd that new reasons are always popping up to maintain the historical tax structure.
Imagine the furore if the circulation tax on existing vehicles had been calculated under the new tables when they were introduced and people found themselves stuck with a bill ten times higher overnight. Especially in a country where so many peoples' finances are so delicately balanced and own transport more a necessity than a luxury for many.
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Which cities have banned diesel? i've only seen some have restricted some diesel vehicles and that does not mean diesel will be banned altogether as the majority of goods transported by road and the majority of coaches, fire engines, cranes etc, are diesel fueled so things like shops getting stock or delivery of building materials would be an issue if there no diesel. Here;s some EU info (a few years ago) about Portugal car fuel consumption and it'll take quite a time for all the car diesel fueled kilometers to be replaced by car petrol/LPG or electric kilometers and as they are finding elsewhere the country does not produce enough electricity to charge any significant change in electric car numbers with particularly solar being available daytime but cars on charge nighttime. in 2016 car fuel consumption per inhabitant was 0.53 toe (+2.1% compared to 2015). Overall, 5.2 million tonnes of car fuel (as measured through sales by distribution companies) were consumed, accountingfor a 1.9% increase compared to 2015. Diesel accounted for the highest share of consumption, with 79.1% of the total. LPG consumption (auto gas) increased further (+4.1% compared to 2015), reaching 37 thousand tonnes, while gasoline consumption decreased 2.6% compared to 2015, reaching around 1.1 million tonnes of car fuel.
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Amsterdam has announced a ban on all transport emissions from the city center in a few years.
Delivery vehicles and taxis are included, boats too. Everyone is going electric.
Most goods for delivery are transshipped at nearby depots anyway, so it's not actually that hard. The technology exists and is mature, but people will only pay the extra cost if they're required to do so.
I am a case in point; converting my work boat to electric drive is costing me a lot, even though I'm a champion DIY corner cutter.
My boat only moves a few times a year, so conversion would never make financial sense for me.
I asked about emergency vehicles [fire trucks??] but no one seems to know yet.
Whether diesel is more polluting than petrol depends on what pollutants you decide to measure, under which driving conditions.
Researchers can easily reach whichever conclusion is required.
Delivery vehicles and taxis are included, boats too. Everyone is going electric.
Most goods for delivery are transshipped at nearby depots anyway, so it's not actually that hard. The technology exists and is mature, but people will only pay the extra cost if they're required to do so.
I am a case in point; converting my work boat to electric drive is costing me a lot, even though I'm a champion DIY corner cutter.
My boat only moves a few times a year, so conversion would never make financial sense for me.
I asked about emergency vehicles [fire trucks??] but no one seems to know yet.
Whether diesel is more polluting than petrol depends on what pollutants you decide to measure, under which driving conditions.
Researchers can easily reach whichever conclusion is required.