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I actually eat steak with rice as a preference these days! Plus, I prefer lemon juice on my fried fish, even in the UK (where your chances of finding actual vinegar in a commercial setting is near zero....it's all "non-brewed condiment"). Of course, your piri-piri chicken will come with chips too...... but not sure how much you'd want vinegar there though. I do get odd looks when I say I like cod, but not bacalhau so much...... explaining milky, flaky, fresh cod to someone who thinks it came from God ready-salted is a challenge. Hake won't cut it either, wherever they put their tails. :unsure:

BTW, my FiL used to make "Vinho Americano" aka Morangueiro.... which is infamous for the speed at which it can "turn". I remember SWMBO drinking it one evening and when she went back to the barrel the next lunchtime, it was vinegar. I remember being there for the harvest, treading the wine and then going back a couple of hours later to hear the "snap, crackle and pop" of fermentation from the natural air-borne yeasts. Amazing stuff. The bagaço distilled from it is good stuff too..... I'm surprised nobody is running their car on it!

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Well for me fried fish needs chips, maybe the mushy peas, but not essential, but vinegar a must..........talking about `must`, the brew is now down to 1020, so still cooking.

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I don't want to be a Cassandra but if you haven't experienced home-made wine before, do be prepared to be underwhelmed.

You'll be able to mark it up a bit because it's yours, it's organic and it's got zero carbon miles or whatever but when all's said and done, it doesn't really have that smoothness and depth that a good commercially-produced specimen has.

A bit challenging to the tastebuds is probably an adequate summary ;)

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don't forget the filtration and clearing....... not that Morangueiro got much of that. If you've never tried it, it's only about 8-10% alcohol, but tastes like slightly tannic strawberry jiuce. It's also drunk cold and in highball glasses (so the low alcohol by volume doesn't really come into it!!). Dangerous on a hot day.....

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you mean like a good Australian Shiraz 😀

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And it must be malt vinegar.

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Oh, I don't know, I'm not always underwhelmed by mass-produced Australian grape juice..... :sneaky:

In a land of so many original varieties and so much wine, to bring it from the other side of the world is really doing one's bit for the environment........