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Prattles Oct 27th 2015 6:50 pm

WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 
Hello Expats,
I'm desperate to get out to Australia and join my old colleagues in Perth or Adelaide.

Does anyone on the other side of the world know when they'll be recruiting internationally again.

Kind regards

Martin

stuartt0908 Oct 29th 2015 6:29 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 
Martin,

I'm in the same situation as yourself, waiting for another overseas campaign so that I can put an application in.

There was a Twitter comment a while back from one of the bosses at WAPOL along the lines of that he didn't foresee the need to recruit internationally as there were plenty of able local applicants. SAPOL have not recruited from the UK for a few years now.

The long and short of it is that I have no idea if or when they will recruit again, but thought I would reply with what I do know as I saw your question had been unanswered for a few days, and know how frustrating that is!

Regards,

ST

Prattles Nov 2nd 2015 10:06 am

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Hi ST,
Looks like we'll just have to wait it out. Just wish they would give us some indication as to whether they will or won't be looking internationally again.

Fingers crossed for the future.

Martin

Pollyana Nov 2nd 2015 10:16 am

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 
Going by the past few years, the police keep their cards pretty close to their chests, and until there is a big announcement from one state I doubt there will be anything concrete.

There are waiting lists to join in most, if not all, states these days, so as with paramedics there is less need to sponsor transferees from abroad. Its just cheaper and easier to get Aussies into the job.

One thing I'm fairly sure of is that if and when there is another recruiting drive it'll be posted on here. I'm sure some of the successgul posters from previous campaigns will post if they hear anything :)

Slippery Pete Nov 7th 2015 8:03 am

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Posted this in another thread

teza Nov 7th 2015 10:27 am

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 
They've just done a massive local recruit drive (and are now running a horse recruitment drive :):):) )if the got enough local candidates, unlikely they would do an international one.

foggy balla Jan 15th 2016 11:41 am

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A little thread bump. I've been checking all the usual outlets for info fairly regularly, but all seems very quiet. It appears that recruiting is progressing fine with enough local recruits meaning little or no requirement to look to the UK. Anyone heard rumour of anything of any possible international campaigns?

Pollyana Jan 15th 2016 12:56 pm

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Originally Posted by foggy balla (Post 11838206)
A little thread bump. I've been checking all the usual outlets for info fairly regularly, but all seems very quiet. It appears that recruiting is progressing fine with enough local recruits meaning little or no requirement to look to the UK. Anyone heard rumour of anything of any possible international campaigns?

Just the opposite I'm afraid, keep hearing how there are plenty of onshre applicants.

Cls601 Feb 6th 2016 11:30 am

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Hi all, I emailed them direct last week and they said they have "no plans at this stage" for an international campaign but from what I've heard they have said that in the past and then launched one soon after so not much help really!

teza Feb 11th 2016 10:02 am

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In current state climate (WA being broke), I wouldn't expect and international drive for a year or two atleast or they'd have us taxpayers to answer to.

Cls601 Feb 11th 2016 10:22 am

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Originally Posted by teza (Post 11864312)
In current state climate (WA being broke), I wouldn't expect and international drive for a year or two atleast or they'd have us taxpayers to answer to.

Fair point teza! Thanks for posting, it's good to get a feel for local opinion.

Dorothy Feb 11th 2016 11:46 am

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Originally Posted by teza (Post 11864312)
In current state climate (WA being broke), I wouldn't expect and international drive for a year or two atleast or they'd have us taxpayers to answer to.

Current hiring freeze in WA gov't until 30 June so I wouldn't expect anything until at least then. Even then there's all the permanent staff who've been displaced that they need to find jobs for before hiring from outside.

Cls601 Feb 11th 2016 11:54 am

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 11864428)
Current hiring freeze in WA gov't until 30 June so I wouldn't expect anything until at least then. Even then there's all the permanent staff who've been displaced that they need to find jobs for before hiring from outside.

I heard about that Dorothy but did I read that police and teachers are exempt from the freeze? (Not internationally, just within WA).

jgibbo83 Apr 12th 2016 2:06 pm

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Has anyone heard any news on WA or SA recruiting anytime soon??

mikelincs Apr 12th 2016 2:20 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 

Originally Posted by jgibbo83 (Post 11920878)
Has anyone heard any news on WA or SA recruiting anytime soon??

As many have already said, they have sufficient recruits locally, so are unlikely, in the forseeable future, to recruit internationally

gregster10217 May 16th 2016 4:47 am

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The only other way in is if your partner/wife/husband has a career on the sponsored list and can get a visa based on that, on which you would also be able to come to Australia. Once here you can apply for the police.

Unfortunately, from the inside, there are no rumours/plans of any further international recruitment. WA is still feeling the pinch from the downturn in mining, and therefore is getting enough local applicants to fill available places.

Keep checking the website though. They have never previously forwarned of international recruitment and all of a sudden it's on.

Rudders34 May 22nd 2016 1:03 am

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Originally Posted by gregster10217 (Post 11948970)
The only other way in is if your partner/wife/husband has a career on the sponsored list and can get a visa based on that, on which you would also be able to come to Australia. Once here you can apply for the police.

Unfortunately, from the inside, there are no rumours/plans of any further international recruitment. WA is still feeling the pinch from the downturn in mining, and therefore is getting enough local applicants to fill available places.

Keep checking the website though. They have never previously forwarned of international recruitment and all of a sudden it's on.





Yeah I had heard this, I didn't apply in 2014 the last WA recruitment as I was applying for a role and thought id wait until the following year... what an error!!


I'm trying to think of other routes in but short of marrying and aussie gal or someone on the skilled occupations list I'm out of ideas.


Might go out on a working visa for a bit but I couldn't apply for the police without PR anyway...


Nightmare.:unsure:

old.sparkles Aug 27th 2016 10:40 am

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Because his came up in the Australian Immi Forum, for a firefighter looking to migrate, I'll post it here as it may be useful for police officers who missed out on the international drive.

South Australia have a supplementary skills list - Lists of State Nominated Occupations

which includes police officers, and enable you to be sponsored for a visa if you can meet the additional criteria here - Supplementary Skilled List and Special Conditions Apply

One of these options is to meet 80 points with sponsorship - High Points , so max IELTS scores will likely be needed but does open up a route if you have enough points. You would also need a valid skills assessment (Vetassess - https://www.vetassess.com.au/skills-...-for-migration )

Pollyana Sep 20th 2016 11:45 am

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Originally Posted by Ale_x (Post 12056832)
Has anyone looked into NT Police, as a current Officer in QPS there are alot more benefits to NTpol like housing and higher wages.

But do they sponsor? Thats the problem most people have, they need the sponsorship in order to get here.

Chippsss Nov 30th 2016 10:22 am

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Dear all , I hope this helps as I've been where you are waiting for news . I'm ex Met of 21 years service and now live in WA . I am coming to the end of the recruitment process here having obtained my own PR visa in London from work I'd done in the police and then moved over last January and applied as a local .
In the absence of a UK recruitment drive I suggest you try and get your own PR then apply as I did . As it stands there is only 1 planned course next year for ex UK officers - a tailored course of 12 weeks with no indication of further intakes yet - so many local factors dictate their need so even when you're here it's a long long process with no guarantees unto you receive the job offer but it's easier than the competition of a UK recruitment drive with a lot more applicants ! Good luck to you all .

Cls601 Nov 30th 2016 1:48 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 

Originally Posted by Chippsss (Post 12117803)
Dear all , I hope this helps as I've been where you are waiting for news . I'm ex Met of 21 years service and now live in WA . I am coming to the end of the recruitment process here having obtained my own PR visa in London from work I'd done in the police and then moved over last January and applied as a local .
In the absence of a UK recruitment drive I suggest you try and get your own PR then apply as I did . As it stands there is only 1 planned course next year for ex UK officers - a tailored course of 12 weeks with no indication of further intakes yet - so many local factors dictate their need so even when you're here it's a long long process with no guarantees unto you receive the job offer but it's easier than the competition of a UK recruitment drive with a lot more applicants ! Good luck to you all .

This sounds interesting! What work allowed you to apply for your own PR from London?

Samb57 Nov 30th 2016 4:53 pm

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Yes as above I am also interested in how ?

Dorothy Nov 30th 2016 9:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Cls601 (Post 12117986)
This sounds interesting! What work allowed you to apply for your own PR from London?


Originally Posted by Samb57 (Post 12118148)
Yes as above I am also interested in how ?

Australian Government Department of Immigration and Border Protection

The post above is misleading. That poster qualified for a visa not with his policing, but by other means. Unless you too quality you can't use his advice.

Chippsss Nov 30th 2016 10:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 12118390)
Australian Government Department of Immigration and Border Protection

The post above is misleading. That poster qualified for a visa not with his policing, but by other means. Unless you too quality you can't use his advice.

Dorothy - thanks for your input / opinions and apparant in depth knowledge of my visa application ??? I'm living in WA having obtained a visa using my policing work and was just trying to offer others some hope that there are ways to still get here . I don't feel my post is misleading .

For the interested people above :-

One of my policing roles was a community officer / sector officer . I completed many projects / operations as part of my work - drug operations / dangerous dog operations , all the usual stuff we do all the time in this role . I ran crime prevention initiatives / programmes etc etc

I applied for a skilled state sponsored 190 visa as a Project and Programme administrator but specified in my skills assessment ( community police officer ) . Looking at the competencies for the Project and Prog officer it was very easy to evidence what they required . Skills assessment passed first time.

My problem at the time was this nominated job needed a qualification equivalent to an Aussie Diploma . After many months of trying to find out what UK qualifications would be sufficient and getting conflicting advice I started a policing degree but struggled with it and home life / work life / kids so pulled out of it .

I then contacted an Aussie college and discovered I could evidence a Aussie diploma in Management . I provided very detailed examples of my work across my whole policing career , acting up as skipper / Intel work / response work / training printouts / Ncalt certs ( I did lots of extra Ncalts in my own time to boost my evidence ! )
Think of it as writing your PDR examples saying how wonderful you are ! I Obtained permission from work to send my work examples abroad with all details of people removed obviously .
It took me 3 months scanning and writing every night from home .
My assessor passed me on all the modules with no actual studying needed as I provided such clear and detailed examples . He made specific comment on my organised approach and high quality of work . I now hold an Australian diploma of management recognised as a formal Aussie qualification . If you fall short on any modules you can pay to distance study to make up that module but thankfully I did it all from Recogntion of prior learning .

All of this submitted to DIAC and visa obtained for me / my wife and 2 kids .

Rules change all the time and I did hear a rumour that 190 visas are now granted only with a job offer and I can't comment on this as I read up on everything for my visa process but that was 3 years ago .

I know how important it is for people to realise their dream of getting here so would not deliberately write misleading posts . Just trying to help !

Good luck to you all .

Chippsss Nov 30th 2016 10:43 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 

Originally Posted by Chippsss (Post 12117803)
Dear all , I hope this helps as I've been where you are waiting for news . I'm ex Met of 21 years service and now live in WA . I am coming to the end of the recruitment process here having obtained my own PR visa in London from work I'd done in the police and then moved over last January and applied as a local .
In the absence of a UK recruitment drive I suggest you try and get your own PR then apply as I did . As it stands there is only 1 planned course next year for ex UK officers - a tailored course of 12 weeks with no indication of further intakes yet - so many local factors dictate their need so even when you're here it's a long long process with no guarantees unto you receive the job offer but it's easier than the competition of a UK recruitment drive with a lot more applicants ! Good luck to you all .

Ps - in addition to my long post I forgot to say that this week in the news are MP's calling for another 1000 cops to here recruited , however the commissioner says he doesn't need that many as the problems in WA need to be dealt with by partner agencies and more cops will just mean more arrests etc but still not enough work in are of Mental Health and other needed services . Election is in March so if anything happens it will likely be around then I guess .

geo_1987 Jan 9th 2017 5:57 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 
Hi all. I'm relatively new to the forums but was looking for some help in relation to applying for SAPOL. My fiancee and i are looking to come out on a skilled worker visa as she's a nurse.
Ive been working for the police from 16 as a cadet and a cop at 18. Im aware that SAPOL for the time being have stopped all international recruitment but was looking to find out if our visa is granted, then what would my chances be of applying when in Adelaide???

Any info is much appreciated.

Chippsss Jan 9th 2017 11:17 pm

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Originally Posted by geo_1987 (Post 12147166)
Hi all. I'm relatively new to the forums but was looking for some help in relation to applying for SAPOL. My fiancee and i are looking to come out on a skilled worker visa as she's a nurse.
Ive been working for the police from 16 as a cadet and a cop at 18. Im aware that SAPOL for the time being have stopped all international recruitment but was looking to find out if our visa is granted, then what would my chances be of applying when in Adelaide???

Any info is much appreciated.

If it's a Perm residency visa that you get then you can apply in Adelaide as a local and international recruitment won't concern you . Assuming SAPOL are recruiting , check they will recognise your service from home . WAPOL will recognise 9 years max . Good luck .

teza Jan 10th 2017 10:21 am

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Provided that you and your fiancée have been living together as defacto for 12 mths, and that she qualifies for PR visa, you would get the same and could apply for the police force.

Farrell74 Feb 3rd 2017 10:33 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 
Hello all,

First time poster, also a British bobbie hoping for that Oz dream to open up again. Will be keeping my eyes and ears out!

I just hope it doesn't come to late (years in service wise)

teza Feb 4th 2017 10:16 am

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WAPOL is unlikely to recruit anytime soon given that Western Australia is pretty much broke and us tax payers would raise hell about overseas recruitment given the the unemployment rates in the state at the moment.

Saxon89 Feb 5th 2017 11:48 am

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The union is begging for 1000 new officers over the next couple years, state elextion is up in March I think so if the different parties both promise to deliver even 500 I can't see them picking up 500 yobbos from Perth.

Rudders34 Feb 15th 2017 4:13 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 

Originally Posted by Saxon89 (Post 12171486)
The union is begging for 1000 new officers over the next couple years, state elextion is up in March I think so if the different parties both promise to deliver even 500 I can't see them picking up 500 yobbos from Perth.



Fingers crossed. Didn't apply back in 2014 which was possibly one of the last? Would love to get out there!


My partner is a cop also so I cant forsee any other way of getting out there. Fair play to Chipppsss though a lot of hard work and determination #WellDone

teza Mar 4th 2017 9:58 am

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Originally Posted by Saxon89 (Post 12171486)
The union is begging for 1000 new officers over the next couple years, state elextion is up in March I think so if the different parties both promise to deliver even 500 I can't see them picking up 500 yobbos from Perth.

Liberals just announced yesterday that should they win power, they'll stick to population per police ratio and will not give an inch to the union.

teza Mar 8th 2017 10:16 am

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Originally Posted by teza (Post 12196621)
Liberals just announced yesterday that should they win power, they'll stick to population per police ratio and will not give an inch to the union.

Both major parties have now announced that police numbers will not be increased.

adamh1211 Apr 25th 2017 8:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Chippsss (Post 12118459)
Dorothy - thanks for your input / opinions and apparant in depth knowledge of my visa application ??? I'm living in WA having obtained a visa using my policing work and was just trying to offer others some hope that there are ways to still get here . I don't feel my post is misleading .

For the interested people above :-

One of my policing roles was a community officer / sector officer . I completed many projects / operations as part of my work - drug operations / dangerous dog operations , all the usual stuff we do all the time in this role . I ran crime prevention initiatives / programmes etc etc

I applied for a skilled state sponsored 190 visa as a Project and Programme administrator but specified in my skills assessment ( community police officer ) . Looking at the competencies for the Project and Prog officer it was very easy to evidence what they required . Skills assessment passed first time.

My problem at the time was this nominated job needed a qualification equivalent to an Aussie Diploma . After many months of trying to find out what UK qualifications would be sufficient and getting conflicting advice I started a policing degree but struggled with it and home life / work life / kids so pulled out of it .

I then contacted an Aussie college and discovered I could evidence a Aussie diploma in Management . I provided very detailed examples of my work across my whole policing career , acting up as skipper / Intel work / response work / training printouts / Ncalt certs ( I did lots of extra Ncalts in my own time to boost my evidence ! )
Think of it as writing your PDR examples saying how wonderful you are ! I Obtained permission from work to send my work examples abroad with all details of people removed obviously .
It took me 3 months scanning and writing every night from home .
My assessor passed me on all the modules with no actual studying needed as I provided such clear and detailed examples . He made specific comment on my organised approach and high quality of work . I now hold an Australian diploma of management recognised as a formal Aussie qualification . If you fall short on any modules you can pay to distance study to make up that module but thankfully I did it all from Recogntion of prior learning .

All of this submitted to DIAC and visa obtained for me / my wife and 2 kids .

Rules change all the time and I did hear a rumour that 190 visas are now granted only with a job offer and I can't comment on this as I read up on everything for my visa process but that was 3 years ago .

I know how important it is for people to realise their dream of getting here so would not deliberately write misleading posts . Just trying to help !

Good luck to you all .


Hi Chippsss,

Just reading through your post, I'm currently going through exactly the same process as you describe above. Been serving in London for the past 8 years now and keen to get my ass out to Oz. I have applied for the state nominated visa for police officer however, which as you've rightly stated, requires 80 points for that visa application invite. I am 5 points short and was hoping you could give me some advice? My EOI is currently in situ and interested in how you went about gaining the Australian qualification you speak of, i.e. what institute you contacted etc.

I'd really appreciate it if you got bad to me as I'm almost over the finish line and just need a bit of help. Please feel free to PM me.

Many thanks

Adam:thumbsup:

Pollyana Apr 26th 2017 10:36 am

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Originally Posted by adamh1211 (Post 12238315)
Hi Chippsss,

Just reading through your post, I'm currently going through exactly the same process as you describe above. Been serving in London for the past 8 years now and keen to get my ass out to Oz. I have applied for the state nominated visa for police officer however, which as you've rightly stated, requires 80 points for that visa application invite. I am 5 points short and was hoping you could give me some advice? My EOI is currently in situ and interested in how you went about gaining the Australian qualification you speak of, i.e. what institute you contacted etc.

I'd really appreciate it if you got bad to me as I'm almost over the finish line and just need a bit of help. Please feel free to PM me.

Many thanks

Adam:thumbsup:

Which state and visa class are yo trying for? And have you checked that Police Officer is stilleligible after this week's changes?

adamh1211 May 2nd 2017 8:13 pm

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Hi Pollyanna,

It is South Australia I am applying to.

adamh1211 May 2nd 2017 8:14 pm

Re: WAPOL/SAPOL Recruitment?
 

Originally Posted by adamh1211 (Post 12243125)
Hi Pollyanna,

It is South Australia I am applying to.

Also, having just checked police officer is still on there :thumbup:

old.sparkles May 4th 2017 12:16 am

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Originally Posted by adamh1211 (Post 12243126)
Also, having just checked police officer is still on there :thumbup:

You are aware that the high points threshold increased to 85 points I hope - High Points

I also cannot see police officer on the state list - are you sure it's there?

jim2001 May 13th 2017 5:36 pm

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Looks like it's off again!


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