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Old Jan 24th 2005, 1:19 pm
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Hello all, Mr HugoB here,

the First thread seems to have grown pretty huge mainly on the SA Police drive at the moment, and best of luck to them all!

I have started this new thread to focus on WA and Queensland and specifically their ability to recognise prior service.

I am a Met officer, and I will have 7 years service by the time we immigrate to Australia. Mrs HugoB is a haematology nurse we have an 21 month toddler and another due in July.

We intend applying for a skilled independant visa in or shortly after May 2005 and hope to be on Australian soil by Christmas 2005.

We have not made our minds up as yet between WA and Queensland and we will give more consideration to which force puts me further back up the ladder. (ie more money quicker!!!)

We have a 3 week scouting trip booked in April and hopefully after that we will be able to make a decision about where to settle.

After much research this is what I (hope I) understand about the two policies. Please post and correct me where I am wrong!

The Queensland Police Force operates what it calls the PACE program. This seems to be the better defined program of the two, with specific mention of a shorter time at the academy (16 weeks as opposed to 26 weeks) and recognition of previous overseas police service which effectively means you would leave the academy on (or up to) a 5 year PC's salary.

The WA Police force operates what it calls the "Recognition of Prior Policing Service and Learning". This is far less defined and basically mentions that officers might get a shortened period of initial training at the academy. (No mention of how this is assessed or how muuch shorter it will be) There is mention of acceleration up to the level of Senior constable with up to 7 years, provided you pass the necessary courses, and these courses are not guaranteed to come your way over any spesific time period. So you could still be languishing for quite some time as a probationary constable on the basic starting salary.

I have emailed both WA and Queensland Police and if/when I get more answers I will post them here.

It would be great to hear from anyone else in the same boat, and If anyone has any questions I can help with please ask, and similarly if anyone can answer any of my questions please post away!

Here is a link to the WA "Recognition of Prior Service and Learning" Policy NB its a .pdf document which means you will need adobe acrobat document reader to open it.

http://www.stepforward.wa.gov.au/images/RPLProcess.pdf

Here is a link to the Queesnland PACE Program http://www.police.qld.gov.au/pr/join...ployment.shtml

the site is down at the moment, if the link is wrong I will chage it.
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Originally Posted by HugoB
Hello all, Mr HugoB here,

the First thread seems to have grown pretty huge mainly on the SA Police drive at the moment, and best of luck to them all!

I have started this new thread to focus on WA and Queensland and specifically their ability to recognise prior service.

I am a Met officer, and I will have 7 years service by the time we immigrate to Australia. Mrs HugoB is a haematology nurse we have an 21 month toddler and another due in July.

We intend applying for a skilled independant visa in or shortly after May 2005 and hope to be on Australian soil by Christmas 2005.

We have not made our minds up as yet between WA and Queensland and we will give more consideration to which force puts me further back up the ladder. (ie more money quicker!!!)

We have a 3 week scouting trip booked in April and hopefully after that we will be able to make a decision about where to settle.

After much research this is what I (hope I) understand about the two policies. Please post and correct me where I am wrong!

The Queensland Police Force operates what it calls the PACE program. This seems to be the better defined program of the two, with specific mention of a shorter time at the academy (16 weeks as opposed to 26 weeks) and recognition of previous overseas police service which effectively means you would leave the academy on (or up to) a 5 year PC's salary.

The WA Police force operates what it calls the "Recognition of Prior Policing Service and Learning". This is far less defined and basically mentions that officers might get a shortened period of initial training at the academy. (No mention of how this is assessed or how muuch shorter it will be) There is mention of acceleration up to the level of Senior constable with up to 7 years, provided you pass the necessary courses, and these courses are not guaranteed to come your way over any spesific time period. So you could still be languishing for quite some time as a probationary constable on the basic starting salary.

I have emailed both WA and Queensland Police and if/when I get more answers I will post them here.

It would be great to hear from anyone else in the same boat, and If anyone has any questions I can help with please ask, and similarly if anyone can answer any of my questions please post away!

Here is a link to the WA "Recognition of Prior Service and Learning" Policy NB its a .pdf document which means you will need adobe acrobat document reader to open it.

http://www.stepforward.wa.gov.au/images/RPLProcess.pdf

Here is a link to the Queesnland PACE Program http://www.police.qld.gov.au/pr/join...ployment.shtml

the site is down at the moment, if the link is wrong I will chage it.
Hi HugoB, we are in a very similar position. I am a nurse and my hubby a cop. We have just lodged our Skilled Independent Visa and are looking at a move to QLD. Mainly because of the reasons you state - their PACE programme is organised, structured and up and running. We also have some contacts in QLD (both in the police service and not). It would be great to keep in touch with your plans especially to hear how your visit in April goes!! Has your wife completed her TRA yet? Good luck with all your plans
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Originally Posted by HugoB
Hello all, Mr HugoB here,

the First thread seems to have grown pretty huge mainly on the SA Police drive at the moment, and best of luck to them all!

I have started this new thread to focus on WA and Queensland and specifically their ability to recognise prior service.

I am a Met officer, and I will have 7 years service by the time we immigrate to Australia. Mrs HugoB is a haematology nurse we have an 21 month toddler and another due in July.

We intend applying for a skilled independant visa in or shortly after May 2005 and hope to be on Australian soil by Christmas 2005.

We have not made our minds up as yet between WA and Queensland and we will give more consideration to which force puts me further back up the ladder. (ie more money quicker!!!)

We have a 3 week scouting trip booked in April and hopefully after that we will be able to make a decision about where to settle.

After much research this is what I (hope I) understand about the two policies. Please post and correct me where I am wrong!

The Queensland Police Force operates what it calls the PACE program. This seems to be the better defined program of the two, with specific mention of a shorter time at the academy (16 weeks as opposed to 26 weeks) and recognition of previous overseas police service which effectively means you would leave the academy on (or up to) a 5 year PC's salary.

The WA Police force operates what it calls the "Recognition of Prior Policing Service and Learning". This is far less defined and basically mentions that officers might get a shortened period of initial training at the academy. (No mention of how this is assessed or how muuch shorter it will be) There is mention of acceleration up to the level of Senior constable with up to 7 years, provided you pass the necessary courses, and these courses are not guaranteed to come your way over any spesific time period. So you could still be languishing for quite some time as a probationary constable on the basic starting salary.

I have emailed both WA and Queensland Police and if/when I get more answers I will post them here.

It would be great to hear from anyone else in the same boat, and If anyone has any questions I can help with please ask, and similarly if anyone can answer any of my questions please post away!

Here is a link to the WA "Recognition of Prior Service and Learning" Policy NB its a .pdf document which means you will need adobe acrobat document reader to open it.

http://www.stepforward.wa.gov.au/images/RPLProcess.pdf

Here is a link to the Queesnland PACE Program http://www.police.qld.gov.au/pr/join...ployment.shtml

the site is down at the moment, if the link is wrong I will chage it.
Hi

We went out to Brisbane in April 2003. Before going we made contact with a guy call David Watson who is based in the recruitment section in HQ (Brisbane).

My hubby arranged an appointment to see him whilst we were over there re chances of employment ect.
He seemed very possitive that once we had a perminate visa the recruitment process would be easy.

PM me if you would like further details.
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Just waiting for 'restoration' to QLD register (sent off last week), then hopefully a modified skills assessment before the main app. goes in, end of April after the trip I hope. We'll certainly let you know if we find anything else interesting out there!

Irons, thanks for the reply,

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Hugo,
I have looked into both Forces and what you say is correct.
However we have decided to go for WAP, their recognition of prior learning is only about 2 years old, however, from people I have spoken with it seems that you can get up to Senior Constable within 6 months of leaving the Academy ( salary around $60,000 with shift allowance etc)
There are various diplomas to pass on both sides and WAP do get you on them pretty quickly.
We have visited both Brisbane (plus Gold and Sunshine coast) and Perth and we have decided that Perth will be the easist to adjust to ( although Brisbane is a nicer city).
We have been going throught the skilled visas process and it has taken about 12 months so far( that includes the time it takes to get all the paperwork together) and we are hoping to get the visas through in Feb, so May to December may be a bit hopeful.
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Hugo,
I have looked into both Forces and what you say is correct.
However we have decided to go for WAP, their recognition of prior learning is only about 2 years old, however, from people I have spoken with it seems that you can get up to Senior Constable within 6 months of leaving the Academy ( salary around $60,000 with shift allowance etc)
There are various diplomas to pass on both sides and WAP do get you on them pretty quickly.
We have visited both Brisbane (plus Gold and Sunshine coast) and Perth and we have decided that Perth will be the easist to adjust to ( although Brisbane is a nicer city).
We have been going throught the skilled visas process and it has taken about 12 months so far( that includes the time it takes to get all the paperwork together) and we are hoping to get the visas through in Feb, so May to December may be a bit hopeful.

Thanks for your reply galenco

Now thats very interesting to hear, I telephoned the academy a while back and the chap I spoke to didnt really know much about the recognition of prior learning policy so he wouldnt commit to a straight answer about how long etc.

Do you have any contact emails etc? I'd be very grateful if you can pass them on, we are over in Australia in April so it would be good to have a contact who knows what they are talking about.


On another vein, when are you submitting your application? are you going to apply from the UK or wait till you are in WA?

Best of luck with the visa, hope it comes soon!

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Hello Iam a serving UK officer 35yrs of age, my wife is 33yrs and qualifies as a nurse in September, we are at that initial stage of contemplating a move to Oz, the Queensland area interests us, firstly what are the entry requirements and what sort of visa would be required and how do you go about applying for one.
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Hello Iam a serving UK officer 35yrs of age, my wife is 33yrs and qualifies as a nurse in September, we are at that initial stage of contemplating a move to Oz, the Queensland area interests us, firstly what are the entry requirements and what sort of visa would be required and how do you go about applying for one.
Any info would be obliged.
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Hi, have a look at www.immi.gov.au the Australian immigration site for all info on visas and requirments. There are several options for nurses - see

http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/nurses.htm

Also there is helpful info on the nurses forum and immigration forum on this site and loads of stuff on the FAQs at the top of each forum. Then you can get an idea of what visa suits your situation. Also lots of interesting stuff on the lifestyle/culture page.

Then you can start asking hundreds of question like us!!

Hope that helps as a start!


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Cheers for the info , we hav'nt even started the process yet and our heads are spinning, thank god for the internet.
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Jason,
You will need Permanant Residency to apply to the Police.
For Queensland you will also need a First Aid Cert and a Bronze Medallion Lifesaving, so start lookng into those now.
Hugo,
The application form states you need a Cat C driving Licence when you apply, I am trying to find out if they will accept a UK Licence or if they require an OZ licence. If a UK DL will suffice then I will apply from the UK, otherwise I will need to get my OZ DL first ( just some form filling)
We are in Perth in April as well (Ocean Reef area).
WAP will not give a time scale for progression through the ranks because it depends how fast you complete the various parts of thier Diploma in Policeing.
If you're thinking of Perth you will need to collect evidence of your competencies, Arrests, prisoner process, files, property handling,dv, etc, etc as this will help you pass the first stage.
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Jason,
You will need Permanant Residency to apply to the Police.
For Queensland you will also need a First Aid Cert and a Bronze Medallion Lifesaving, so start lookng into those now.
Hugo,
The application form states you need a Cat C driving Licence when you apply, I am trying to find out if they will accept a UK Licence or if they require an OZ licence. If a UK DL will suffice then I will apply from the UK, otherwise I will need to get my OZ DL first ( just some form filling)
We are in Perth in April as well (Ocean Reef area).
WAP will not give a time scale for progression through the ranks because it depends how fast you complete the various parts of thier Diploma in Policeing.
If you're thinking of Perth you will need to collect evidence of your competencies, Arrests, prisoner process, files, property handling,dv, etc, etc as this will help you pass the first stage.
hi there,
ive been here in ocean reef,perth for 9 months now,and hoping maybe to join the police next year when my youngest is at full time schhool,just to help at the above ,when i was looking into the application form,it says you can fill out the form and hand it in,and you have 90 days to hand in d.lisence,first aid.....for wa,theres no bronze medallion.......ive all the info here,and you can also get the test and apllication of there web site ,print it off and send it off.......
hope that helps..
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I am in Brisbane at the moment and applied to join the QPS on Dec04(no previous police exp - but previous mil exp).
Ref the First Aid Cert (Senior First Aid Cert), Bronze Medallion - you will need to wait until you get here coz they have to oz quals. I had both a first aid cert and a lifeguard qual from uk but have still got to do the oz equivelent! You also have to a typing test at 25wpm with a 98% accuracy. Also ref the driving licence, all have you to in QLD is take a theory test and show your UK driving licence - and that is suffient.
I am being put on hold at the moment coz my background police checks still have'nt come from the UK and therefore they cannot process me any further until the checks come back
Annoying really coz in the military I had a very high level of security vetting, and have never had any criminal convictions spent or otherwise - so if any of you coppers know who I can contact in the UK to speed these checks up it would be much appreciated!??

Hope all the above info is helpful!

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Jason,
You will need Permanant Residency to apply to the Police.
For Queensland you will also need a First Aid Cert and a Bronze Medallion Lifesaving, so start lookng into those now.
Hugo,
The application form states you need a Cat C driving Licence when you apply, I am trying to find out if they will accept a UK Licence or if they require an OZ licence. If a UK DL will suffice then I will apply from the UK, otherwise I will need to get my OZ DL first ( just some form filling)
We are in Perth in April as well (Ocean Reef area).
WAP will not give a time scale for progression through the ranks because it depends how fast you complete the various parts of thier Diploma in Policeing.
If you're thinking of Perth you will need to collect evidence of your competencies, Arrests, prisoner process, files, property handling,dv, etc, etc as this will help you pass the first stage.
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Ha All,
I am an Australian citizen currently serving in Sussex Police where I have been for four and a half years. I applied to Qld Police under teh PACE pragram in September last year and am due to go for interview in March.
I made my application from the UK and have had few problems with Qld, (loads from HQ at Sussex though!).
The current contact at Qld for the PACE recruitment is Juanita Mills , [email protected] , who is very helpful.
The first step was the application which you can download from there web site recruiting section. Shortly after they emailed two of my Sgt's and my Inspector and requested references from them. Next they applied to HQ for copies of my conduct record (Doh!!), and personnel/sickness history.
All my history checks etc were done from their end.
Now that I have passed the application stage I will need to go for a medical and interview at Brisbane. This seems to happen on the one day and can also be arraged in Melbourne and Sydney.
Once through this you have to obtain your life saving/first aid cert and these need to be valid for the period of your intial training at the acadamy.
There is a fitness test two days before entry into the academy, but from what they have told me this is more of a test to check your current fitness level than a pass or fail.
I am aiming for te 13 June intake but they also have one in March and October.
I hope this is of some help to people, if anyone has any questions please ask.
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I have spoken with Juanita in the past, she told me that my UK HSE First Aid cert and Bronze medal would be valid. The Bronze medallion takes about two/three months to achieve ( going once a week) so I suggest you get it over here.
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