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Old Feb 23rd 2020, 2:58 am
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Hello!
I was a member here many years ago before I moved to Canada in 2007. I was with the UK police before that and then with a canadian police force until 2014.
I left and started a small business and went back to university and have been doing a couple of degrees which I'm about to finish this spring.

I see the rules for rejoiners have now changed in the UK, removing the 5 year limit, and we are considering coming back. I am particularly interested in if anyone knows how the rejoiner process is working now with regard to rejoining at a higher rank?
I was a PC on the ARV before I left, and then with another 7 years or so experience here, and further education and running my own business I appear to be qualified for the higher rank entry process.
I wouldn't necessarily imagine I would qualify for the direct inspector process as I haven't been a senior manager in the corporate world, but my understanding is the rejoiner process is much more just at the discretion of the senior officers what rank they think you fit at.
Does anyone have any insight into this process since the changes? A friend who's now a superintendent is looking into it for me in my former police force, but I don't think they have the policy all in place yet there.

My wife is Canadian and the kids and I are all dual citizens, so if I could secure a Sgt or Inspector job, or even a Cst job at a higher pay scale commensurate with my service, it would be relatively straightforward to come to the UK and sponsor my wife as a spouse visa. We have quite a bit of equity, and with investments and stuff we could probably easily qualify even without the job offer in place, but it's really missing policing that's a big draw to return for me.
The police here I found very backward and boring, with too much nepotism and corruption, hence why I left.

The only other jobs I could see myself doing here would be something like CSIS, but that comes with some downsides, such as poor pay and having to relocate to Ottawa. My business is good, but I really only set it up to pay my way through university and I wouldn't do it forever.
The only other options I've considered is doing more university and medical school, but with a family and both of us running our own businesses it's a bit of a challenge.

So we are thinking of coming back, my wife is up for the adventure, and the eldest kid is keen too. The others are too young to care. Maybe we wouldn't stay forever, but there are a few things I miss, and life here in Alberta is not very exciting for the winter, especially with kids too young to ski. Summers are great, and moving to vancouver island would be nice, but there are literally no jobs I'd be keen on doing there without significantly more time in further education.

We have the ability to give it a try and see how we get on.

Sorry for the long post, but let's hear your thoughts.
Thank you!


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Old Feb 23rd 2020, 6:26 pm
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My understanding is that most forces will accept rejoiners within 9 years of leaving a UK Home Office force. I have seen adverts from Thames Valley and the BTP which stipulated the 9 year rule. The rejoiner process is basically like the transferee process - a papersift and a short interview. However I also know people who have rejoined after more than 9 years - the process is just different. You'd essentially have to go through the normal PC recruitment process and pass all the stages. You'd then go through the standard police officer training programme with your force, but your previous service in the UK will be counted for pay purposes, so if you were at the top of the pay scale for a PC before, then you'd go straight back onto that pay point as soon as you join.

As for ranks, there is no process to skip ahead and rejoin as a Sergeant. What you mentioned about rank being at the discretion of senior officers is only for unpaid Special Constables (I have seen Specials skip ranks to Special Sergeant or Special Inspector at the behest of senior officers but these ranks are essentially meaningless.) You might be elligible for the Direct Entry Inspector scheme but I am fairly sure that prior Police experience is a disqualiying factor. You'd definitely be going back in as a PC, but as I said above, you should be able to keep your pay point (this may not be the case with every force so it would be worth contacting them).

Take a look at AllPoliceJobs which lists all open vacancies for UK Police recruitment. Almost every force is currently recruiting for PCs including specialist forces like the CNC who would probably appreciate previous firearms experience (all of their officers are trained to AFO standard).
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Old Feb 23rd 2020, 7:11 pm
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My understanding is that most forces will accept rejoiners within 9 years of leaving a UK Home Office force. I have seen adverts from Thames Valley and the BTP which stipulated the 9 year rule. The rejoiner process is basically like the transferee process - a papersift and a short interview. However I also know people who have rejoined after more than 9 years - the process is just different. You'd essentially have to go through the normal PC recruitment process and pass all the stages. You'd then go through the standard police officer training programme with your force, but your previous service in the UK will be counted for pay purposes, so if you were at the top of the pay scale for a PC before, then you'd go straight back onto that pay point as soon as you join.

As for ranks, there is no process to skip ahead and rejoin as a Sergeant. What you mentioned about rank being at the discretion of senior officers is only for unpaid Special Constables (I have seen Specials skip ranks to Special Sergeant or Special Inspector at the behest of senior officers but these ranks are essentially meaningless.) You might be elligible for the Direct Entry Inspector scheme but I am fairly sure that prior Police experience is a disqualiying factor. You'd definitely be going back in as a PC, but as I said above, you should be able to keep your pay point (this may not be the case with every force so it would be worth contacting them).

Take a look ahich lists all open vacancies for UK Police recruitment. Almost every force is currently recruiting for PCs including specialist forces like the CNC who would probably appreciate previous firearms experience (all of their officers are trained to AFO standard).
The policing college information pack does specifically mention rank being at the discretion of management. And gives you 6 months to prep for the relevant exams after rehire.

If that actually happens in reality is a different matter.
You're right the direct entry process is blocked, but that also refers to the possibility of being a rejoiner at a higher rank.

Rank isn't the be all for me anyway. But I'd really not want to redo all of training. I've got a pretty much photographic memory so I can still recite all the paperwork we used from memory. Even the interview scripts. So redoing it all would be tiresome.
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Old Feb 23rd 2020, 7:21 pm
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And to clarify I'm talking about the new regulations that were only published about 6 months ago.
so anything before then was on the old system.
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https://www.scotland.police.uk/recruitment/

Police Scotland are having a major drive at the moment and they will take rejoiners/transferees too. I think a stumbling block may be that you've been away a while. One of my friends did 4 years then left and came back again after being away for 10. He had to do the whole recruit course again! But he did win the Baton of Honour
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