UK to Canada
Jul 19th 2012, 10:01 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
I'm a PC, firearms, 30 years old. What lets me down is schooling. Didnt leave school with much, just a couple of degree's. No canadian family. No sponsor. Good financial position.
Any ideas.
Any ideas.
Jul 20th 2012, 12:26 am
#62
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Re: UK to Canada
Possibly. Have a look at the Wiki (blue bar at top of page), grab a cuppa and get reading. That will tell you all the available visa options.
Doubtful, given that 'the list' is suspended at the moment! There are major changes coming to Canadian immigration, which won't be implemented until Jan 2013, and 'the list' will be changed for that, so it's no longer really relevant.
Not necessarily. There are over 50 routes to PR, and not all of them involve a job offer. I don't know where Beedhamrobert wishes to go to, but perhaps something like the Nova Scotia PNP (Community Identified Stream) would be an option? No job offer required for that, or for similar PNP streams such as in Manitoba.
The wait for PR was 4-5 years back before 2008, but it's speeded up a lot since then (when 'the list' was first introduced). A year or so is the norm now, or even less - we've had people in the Canada forum who've had PR in 6 months via the FSW route.
Doubtful, given that 'the list' is suspended at the moment! There are major changes coming to Canadian immigration, which won't be implemented until Jan 2013, and 'the list' will be changed for that, so it's no longer really relevant.
Not necessarily. There are over 50 routes to PR, and not all of them involve a job offer. I don't know where Beedhamrobert wishes to go to, but perhaps something like the Nova Scotia PNP (Community Identified Stream) would be an option? No job offer required for that, or for similar PNP streams such as in Manitoba.
The wait for PR was 4-5 years back before 2008, but it's speeded up a lot since then (when 'the list' was first introduced). A year or so is the norm now, or even less - we've had people in the Canada forum who've had PR in 6 months via the FSW route.
I guess am only commenting from my and other brit cops personal experiences of emigrating, and only in relation to the CPS in Alberta.
I do not know anything about the emigrating to eastern provinces as I had ruled out going there for several different reasons which I won't go into on here.
Jul 20th 2012, 11:53 am
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Re: UK to Canada
I looked at Edmonton Police a couple of years ago but they pulled the plug on international recruitment over night regardless of what stage you were at.
Jul 20th 2012, 3:37 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
Hey thank you all for the advice so far.
As for me I really don't mind where I live in Canada I love the country and will settle anywhere.
I'm not lucky enough to have a degree but have a higher national diploma in business and IT. And have about 10 qualifications which are software and courses around data recovery and computer studies all with certifications. The problem I have is that my job is so specialist they don't come up often. I would be more than happy to take a change of career though and could learn anything.
I'll have a look at the PNP's for individual states and see what I can find out.
I am planning to start the application process as soon as I work put where to start with forms as it would be nice to get it started.
Hope to speak to you all soon and thanks again.
Rob
As for me I really don't mind where I live in Canada I love the country and will settle anywhere.
I'm not lucky enough to have a degree but have a higher national diploma in business and IT. And have about 10 qualifications which are software and courses around data recovery and computer studies all with certifications. The problem I have is that my job is so specialist they don't come up often. I would be more than happy to take a change of career though and could learn anything.
I'll have a look at the PNP's for individual states and see what I can find out.
I am planning to start the application process as soon as I work put where to start with forms as it would be nice to get it started.
Hope to speak to you all soon and thanks again.
Rob
Jul 22nd 2012, 9:46 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
Hi folks,
Been perusing this forum for a good while, emigrating to Canada is my dream, I'm currently a UK Police Officer, I used to wonder if this would be advantageous in applying to join the Police in Canada, but it seems to me that International recruitment has dried up, and its obviously not possible to get into the country without the offer of employment etc, looks like I will be struggling
Been perusing this forum for a good while, emigrating to Canada is my dream, I'm currently a UK Police Officer, I used to wonder if this would be advantageous in applying to join the Police in Canada, but it seems to me that International recruitment has dried up, and its obviously not possible to get into the country without the offer of employment etc, looks like I will be struggling
Jul 24th 2012, 9:32 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
Hi folks,
Been perusing this forum for a good while, emigrating to Canada is my dream, I'm currently a UK Police Officer, I used to wonder if this would be advantageous in applying to join the Police in Canada, but it seems to me that International recruitment has dried up, and its obviously not possible to get into the country without the offer of employment etc, looks like I will be struggling
Been perusing this forum for a good while, emigrating to Canada is my dream, I'm currently a UK Police Officer, I used to wonder if this would be advantageous in applying to join the Police in Canada, but it seems to me that International recruitment has dried up, and its obviously not possible to get into the country without the offer of employment etc, looks like I will be struggling
Just noticed that this is your first post and wanted to say welcome to BE
Dread - x
Jul 28th 2012, 8:43 pm
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Canada: very difficult
look, the chance to go was when Edmonton and Calgary recruited. That ship has sailed.
The new Immigration rules in Canada make it extremely difficult for anyone who is not one of 28 professions (and this does not include police) to get a visa.
And even within the 28 listed professions there are caps on an annual basis.
Plus Immigration Minister Kenney wants to scrap all existing visa applications and start afresh with tougher new rules.
My opinion: unless you are going as family, as a police officer its going to be a closed door same as US.
The new Immigration rules in Canada make it extremely difficult for anyone who is not one of 28 professions (and this does not include police) to get a visa.
And even within the 28 listed professions there are caps on an annual basis.
Plus Immigration Minister Kenney wants to scrap all existing visa applications and start afresh with tougher new rules.
My opinion: unless you are going as family, as a police officer its going to be a closed door same as US.
Jul 29th 2012, 9:03 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
Boshwaggle I agree.
I had my opportunity in 2007 with OPP, but due to a whole raft of reasons, could not take it up. There's hardly a day goes by that I don't regret it. But I have for a long while now accepted that the route to Canada is not via The Job and that emigration there for me is now just a dream.
I feel for all the people on this forum who still aspire to go but now have no means. Canada a great country, compared to the UK and I have always found the people welcoming. Though I can no longer bring myself to holiday there.
I have lost track of the visa options and if it is possible but if I had the money I would try and apply for a Canadian university course that could lead to employment, such as a degree in paramedicine or healthcare.
I know its easier said than done, but if you are really determined to go Canada bound, then maybe a career change here in the UK first may be needed.
Good luck to you all.
I had my opportunity in 2007 with OPP, but due to a whole raft of reasons, could not take it up. There's hardly a day goes by that I don't regret it. But I have for a long while now accepted that the route to Canada is not via The Job and that emigration there for me is now just a dream.
I feel for all the people on this forum who still aspire to go but now have no means. Canada a great country, compared to the UK and I have always found the people welcoming. Though I can no longer bring myself to holiday there.
I have lost track of the visa options and if it is possible but if I had the money I would try and apply for a Canadian university course that could lead to employment, such as a degree in paramedicine or healthcare.
I know its easier said than done, but if you are really determined to go Canada bound, then maybe a career change here in the UK first may be needed.
Good luck to you all.
Jul 30th 2012, 3:41 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
Pincher is right.
It is total speculation right now to consider whether Alberta police forces like CPS, EPS will hire internationally again: who knows? Right now the door is shut to anyone who is not already a Citizen or PR of Canada.
These things change over time and are due to factors out of our control. In 2 or 5 or 10 years who knows?
same as to Australia, though I'll readily admit I know little about their process and have never been there.
If one does wish to go to Canada then for sure, unless you can get sponsored by a family member already out there, you need to look at what skills they are looking for, and do what it takes to get qualified.
Its a long haul process, and it won't be cheap! But then many things in life never are!
Good luck.
It is total speculation right now to consider whether Alberta police forces like CPS, EPS will hire internationally again: who knows? Right now the door is shut to anyone who is not already a Citizen or PR of Canada.
These things change over time and are due to factors out of our control. In 2 or 5 or 10 years who knows?
same as to Australia, though I'll readily admit I know little about their process and have never been there.
If one does wish to go to Canada then for sure, unless you can get sponsored by a family member already out there, you need to look at what skills they are looking for, and do what it takes to get qualified.
Its a long haul process, and it won't be cheap! But then many things in life never are!
Good luck.
Jul 30th 2012, 7:34 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
I would say Boshwaggle and Pincher are correct with regards to emigrating as a police officer, it has been suggested the recruitment drive of UK police in Alberta was the result of a strong oil based economy and the recruitment problems experienced by the CPS and EPS were due to the high wages /high recruitment by the oil and gas companies.
This forced the Calgary police to look elsewhere for recruits, there were a few experienced UK officers already in CPS ( can't speak to the EPS ) some were moved into recruitment and several hundred UK officers later over a few years....., then as we all know the world economic conditions changed, demand for oil slumped. The CPS were once again able to recruit from the local/national population. And window of opportunity quickly closed.
Calgary and its suburbs are is still growing at an incredible rate, and it has been suggested that the population( I think currently about 1.2-3 mil) will hit 2 million by 2020, I don't know how accurate this figure is but it likely won't be far short, this will require a lot more police. When the economy here really starts to gain speed, the oil companies will once more take the bulk of the available workforce. I have experienced a recession in the NE of England, and by comparison Calgary was never really in recession(no way!), but it definitely did slow down, and still has not recovered properly, it is all linked to the demand for the black stuff, as 99% of the population of Calgary will likely tell you
If the CPS will accept your application and keep it on file,( it seems the CPS don't do any thing with out a reason) fill it in as you never know what is around the corner, 7 years ago I was looking at emigrating and I was in a similar situation. I wanted to leave the UK, but could see no way of doing so as a cop. I was lucky enough to be married to a nurse which enabled an application for PR to be submitted, at the time I think it was still a five years plus wait for PR but in the end the PR app was not required.
About 18 months into the application for PR, I received a phone call out of the blue, a written test in London followed, and then a hellish stressful week in minus 30 of a Calgary winter. And in the end I came on PNP - interesting times.
Lots of UK cops came for tests and lots went home, some decided it was not for them and others weren't what the CPS was looking for.
Of course, a lot rides on the political climate of the government and the CPS, but a week in politics is a long time, things here can change very quickly, but you can bet your last penny that the window of opportunity will be only open ever so briefly, as while it took a few years to put all the UK cops through classes, the recruitment drive was really not that long, with people being held on file until a slot in training became available.
I don't pretend to know my way around the Canadian immigration system, it is daunting and it seems to be ever changing, but I do know even before the big recruitment drive there were quite a few UK officers who had already made the move against all odds, and after speaking to many of them, they all seem to have taken different routes. They all have an interesting story to tell, everyone I have spoken too said to me that despite the difficulties it was worth it. Unfortunately, the immigration goal posts have been moved many times since then..
If you are trying to make the move - good luck for future - you never know
This forced the Calgary police to look elsewhere for recruits, there were a few experienced UK officers already in CPS ( can't speak to the EPS ) some were moved into recruitment and several hundred UK officers later over a few years....., then as we all know the world economic conditions changed, demand for oil slumped. The CPS were once again able to recruit from the local/national population. And window of opportunity quickly closed.
Calgary and its suburbs are is still growing at an incredible rate, and it has been suggested that the population( I think currently about 1.2-3 mil) will hit 2 million by 2020, I don't know how accurate this figure is but it likely won't be far short, this will require a lot more police. When the economy here really starts to gain speed, the oil companies will once more take the bulk of the available workforce. I have experienced a recession in the NE of England, and by comparison Calgary was never really in recession(no way!), but it definitely did slow down, and still has not recovered properly, it is all linked to the demand for the black stuff, as 99% of the population of Calgary will likely tell you
If the CPS will accept your application and keep it on file,( it seems the CPS don't do any thing with out a reason) fill it in as you never know what is around the corner, 7 years ago I was looking at emigrating and I was in a similar situation. I wanted to leave the UK, but could see no way of doing so as a cop. I was lucky enough to be married to a nurse which enabled an application for PR to be submitted, at the time I think it was still a five years plus wait for PR but in the end the PR app was not required.
About 18 months into the application for PR, I received a phone call out of the blue, a written test in London followed, and then a hellish stressful week in minus 30 of a Calgary winter. And in the end I came on PNP - interesting times.
Lots of UK cops came for tests and lots went home, some decided it was not for them and others weren't what the CPS was looking for.
Of course, a lot rides on the political climate of the government and the CPS, but a week in politics is a long time, things here can change very quickly, but you can bet your last penny that the window of opportunity will be only open ever so briefly, as while it took a few years to put all the UK cops through classes, the recruitment drive was really not that long, with people being held on file until a slot in training became available.
I don't pretend to know my way around the Canadian immigration system, it is daunting and it seems to be ever changing, but I do know even before the big recruitment drive there were quite a few UK officers who had already made the move against all odds, and after speaking to many of them, they all seem to have taken different routes. They all have an interesting story to tell, everyone I have spoken too said to me that despite the difficulties it was worth it. Unfortunately, the immigration goal posts have been moved many times since then..
If you are trying to make the move - good luck for future - you never know
Last edited by AllanG; Jul 30th 2012 at 7:44 pm.
Jul 31st 2012, 8:52 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
AllanG gives sound advice. So basically just wait and see. Canada is a great country to settle in, but for now, the prospects to specifically go in direct as a police officer are not there.
If you want it: be prepared to be flexible and be prepared to hit the mark if ever again they do open up international recruiting again!
If you want it: be prepared to be flexible and be prepared to hit the mark if ever again they do open up international recruiting again!
Jan 19th 2013, 1:37 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
Wonder if the FSWP list will be changing this month
Jan 25th 2013, 5:05 pm
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May 27th 2013, 11:25 pm
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Re: UK to Canada
Hi,
I'm looking for any advice from officers that have transferred from the UK to Canada.
What have you found the pros and cons?
I'm very tempted...
I'm looking for any advice from officers that have transferred from the UK to Canada.
What have you found the pros and cons?
I'm very tempted...
