SDDep

Why dont y'all skip that malarkey and come to SoCal, my agency is hiring...

Lovely weather, nice people..less bangers than LA..community support..good pay, excellent retirement...fast cars and big guns)

SUN DRIED

Wow you must have been one of the very fortunate ones being looked after by Kernohan before he got the sack. He was a bit 'spend spend spend' which is why there was the helicopter fiasco. There hasn't been the money to splash out like that for a while... There were problems covering the salary bill. I can see why you would want to go back but would you if it meant uniform patrol for 2 years?

Copout

Day-am!!! I joined at the wrong time. I must've joined as Stenev left which is when, it appears, it all went tits up.
Since then, we've had times where we've not been paid. Then we got it in drips and drabs.

Maybe they spent all our salary on your damn courses!

Times have changed my friend.

Good luck when you get over here. As I think the interviews will be foregone conclusion, they need people badly as so many are leaving, and more will leave later this year too.
Unless you go in and thump the interviewer or bad mouth his wife, the jobs yours.
Which should be an alarm bell in itself no?



26 days and counting....

Mountie

Copout, Sun dried and Stenev.

Thanks for your personal experiences, it is helpful to have an insight into different experiences as it will helpful in deciding to take a job should I be offered one but as with all experiences they are personal, just read Trip Advisor when reviewing a hotel.....variance is the word, one says it was great the other worst nightmare!

The advert clearly states positions for DCI (SIO) and associated competencies and from the internet research carried out I believe it will be for a new proactive team targeting gang/gun crime, then again could be totally off the mark!
The Detective Investigator post was a separate application form with complete different competencies for the specific post of Detective again with a different pay grade to Constable
The Uniform Constable post stated marine/dog/patrol and did not go into much detail about competencies so you take your chances I guess.
The Firearms Officer, again specific competencies aimed at the shooters!

I am pretty sure previous vacancies have always said Constable position but with possibilities of specialising, this is not the case here. I believe this recruitment is very different, but you guys may know different. Please tell

Also interested to know how the team are getting on that were brought over from England. In the news it states 2 SIO's and 10 Detectives. Are they accepted by RCIPS?

Mountie

SoCal - Southern California, thought you had to be American to join?

SUN DRIED

Mountie, which job are you applying for? If you are looking at DI and above positions you're laughing as you will be treated very well. Your experience will probably count and it'll be all 'old colonial stylee' If you are applying for a lowly PC or even a DC post you won't be laughing.

You are right about the RCIP trying to get some sort of 'task force' together to combat the massive rise in violent crime, it's a typical knee jerk reaction to a problem that has gotten completely out of control.

The Islands are tiny about the size of an average town in the UK, you can only get there by plane or maybe a boat (provided you manage to dodge the likes of stenev on his jetski) why has the problem escalated so far beyond their control?

Could it be that the RCIP and other Govt agencies are comprised of a bunch of mainly incompetent corrupt individuals? The Public for good reason do not trust the police. If they come forward with information they are not protected as the informant in 'witness protection' who got shot can testify.

The truth is the gangs are much more organised group than the RCIP.

DaisyD_UK

There was an article in this week's Police Review about RCIP doing an exchange programme with west mids police in an attempt at targeting gang crime.

DaisyD_UK

Wow. Sounds exactly like my current job, but with more opportunity to do some traffic process and in a warmer climate. Sounds perfect!

Copout

Morning all,

Daisy, the more you write the more perfect you sound for a job over here. If that is the limit to your career ambition then you'll fit in perfectly.

As a local Inspector once told me in a booming heavy voice, "Copout (not my real surname obviously) ambition is a dangerous thing for a white boy on dis island".

DaisyD_UK

Given the number of cutbacks faced in all UK forces at the moment, we don't have any opportunities. We also won't be replaced when we leave due to a national reduction in police officer numbers, which is not going by retirees alone. My force has cancelled 3 intakes of new recruits this year already and the only safe job there is a Response PCs job. There are no jobs for Sergeants or Inspectors, not even for the current ones let alone the ones who have passed the exam in the last few years. I also know of another force who has told people to stay on Career Breaks as there is no post for them if they come back. Good luck anyone coming back trying to get a job.

ESTM

I rest my case, same situation, same boat, same shit!

DaisyD_UK

You forgot nicer climate though!

ESTM

haha you know what i mean, if its the same here or over there i know where id rather be, well i dont think i have to convince anyone anymore on how much i want to move away

SUN DRIED

Eddie and Daisy, If your reasons for going there are nice weather and there are no opportunites in the UK think again. They want UNIFORM Officers to make up the numbers and have some sort of presence on the streets because of the gun crime. They recently made all the CID / Specialists go out in Uniform to try and take back the streets. I doubt very much that there will be any Marine of Dog Handler posts going to new recruits - they have locals who want to do those jobs.

Having returned to the UK (after the initial questions about corruption) I did a stint in uniform and now I'm on a Proactive team working Mon - Fri 1 weekend in 8, stacks of overtime if I want it so I am quite happy. I'd agree that Uniform patrol in the UK is pretty crap but there are far more opportunites here than out there. I applied to go into CID in Cayman after being recommended by several bosses in the Department. I was still waiting when I left......

Working in the RCIP is definitely not career enhancing (I know I keep saying that but it isn't) and the longer you are there the more deskilled you will become. If you're having problems finding opportunities in the UK now imagine how hard you'll find it in a few years.

Copout

Wow, that sounds terrible.
So what happens once you're time's up in Cayman then?
7 years is the max you can stay here then you're 'rolled over'. Then there's the possibility they don't renew your 2 year contract without any reason (which is not unusual). And of course the possibility you'll hate it..... (more than likely)

Are you resigning or taking a career break?

Unless I'm mistaken if you resign and are out the UK force for more than 5 years you'll be starting life as a probationer again on that particular payscale. Not to mention that great new pension you'll be on