Originally Posted by stewie_griffin (Post 10156992)

Yes. All the training a normal Canadian recruit would do, starting from the very bottom*. On the upside, after 5 years in a Western Canadian force, you could be making about what a Superintendent makes in the UK.

*As far as I know.

Originally Posted by MetPolice2014 (Post 11069185)

Thanks Nigel, it is ridiculous that Canadian police will recognise ex police service internationally but will not welcome them straight in. Perhaps I will try USA police forces. Will I have any luck? (probably not) but that's life.
Thanks again

Originally Posted by MetPolice2014 (Post 11069101)

Hello, I am a police officer with The Metropolitan Police Service. I have a question: is it really that impossible to transfer from uk police forces to places like Canada and the U.S.A? :goodpost:

Originally Posted by MetPolice2014 (Post 11069185)

Thanks Nigel, it is ridiculous that Canadian police will recognise ex police service internationally but will not welcome them straight in

Originally Posted by ann m (Post 11080834)

Why is it ridiculous? They have enough local talent applying right now. When they don't get enough interest from inside Canada, they might look outside. Same as everywhere else really. :)

Originally Posted by MetPolice2014 (Post 11069185)

Thanks Nigel, it is ridiculous that Canadian police will recognise ex police service internationally but will not welcome them straight in.

Originally Posted by gigi69 (Post 11194178)

I personally think that even recognising "ex police service internationally" is too much, when a foreign trained specialist comes to Canada they don't get their previous work experience recognised by default, so why should yours be ? Get in the line like every other immigrant and sweat your way through the regular immigration process, you are not that special. Canada is an independent and sovereign state these days, not a UK colony like it used to.
As a Canadian I also find the direct recruitment of foreign trained police officers very disappointing, I simply can't believe that they cannot find well-suited candidates here. Canada is not a thirld world country, after all, and UK is not the golden standard of the world, no matter how much you'd like it to be.

Originally Posted by nige1521 (Post 11194743)

Gigi69, I work in recruiting for the Edmonton Police Service, I can tell you, that we as a service, as well as other police services across Canada ARE finding it difficult to find good quality applicants to meet our goals. That is the reality of it, like it or not.

Originally Posted by geordiebloke (Post 11194190)

Haha.............would you like vinegar to go with that chip on your shoulder?????

Originally Posted by nige1521 (Post 11194743)

Gigi69, I work in recruiting for the Edmonton Police Service, I can tell you, that we as a service, as well as other police services across Canada ARE finding it difficult to find good quality applicants to meet our goals.

Originally Posted by gigi69 (Post 11196286)

I was bored today so I looked into the MET recruitment process. I found something very interesting :)

from here http://www.ncalt.com/pre-join-mps/index.html
Nationality
Are you a British citizen, a citizen of a country that is a member of the European Economic Area (EEA) or Switzerland?

Residency
The MPS must vet all applicants in an equitable manner. We do not currently have the means of facilitating vetting enquiries overseas to the extent required for those who have been resident in the UK. That’s why this is part of our eligibility criteria.
Will you have resided continuously in the UK for the three year period immediately prior to your application to join the MPS (with any absence from the UK being no more than six months during this time)?

If Canada would use the same standards then Nige wouldn't be a policeman in Edmonton today, yet some users (like MetPolice2014) bicker that they can't just hop on a plane and land a job in Canada, including previous service recognition and such.
ps : and let's not forget about all the labour restrictions the UK has imposed on the new EU contries since 2004 ...

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11196324)

I had a quick look at the link you posted - which is for new police officers, and looking at transferring as an experienced officer I cannot see the condition - http://www.metpolicecareers.co.uk/of...nsferring.html

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11196324)

Each force sets their own criteria I guess, and other countries recruit internationally, not just Canada.

Originally Posted by gigi69 (Post 11196365)

I have a feeling that those conditions are for someone coming from another UK police force to the MET, not from abroad. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Yeah, Canada and Australia ... I still can't find any ads from US or Germany :)

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 11196373)

I'm sorry - I can't help you more. I know that other police forces have officers from EU countries. I have also met a French gendarme who was British but no idea of how they joined. I do now that RCIPS is recruiting internationally again - I've seen the thread in this forum. Any force must have a minimum manning requirement and if it cannot be met locally then they will look to recruit elsewhere - same as all occupations.

Edit - sorry, to add - although WAPOL are currently recruiting, and other Australian forces have done so in the past, the AFP (Australian Federal Police) have a requirement that you must be an Australian Citizen to serve with them

Originally Posted by gigi69 (Post 11195111)

Maybe, but this is not a reason to go look abroad, be it in the UK or in any other country. I've never heard about German, Spanish, French or US police advertising recruitment in foreign countries because they "find it difficult to find good quality applicants" in their own. It's like saying Canadians are mostly a bunch of criminals, that's how I read it.
It's true that in Alberta people are choosing the better paid jobs in the oil fields, but this is not the case in other provinces like Ontario or the Maritimes, plenty of unemployment there, maybe you should look harder there instead of wasting taxpayers' money on trips to the UK. And I'm not the only one who's thinking like this, just read the comments from this article
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Tra...929/story.html

Originally Posted by rae (Post 11196710)

I would not feed the troll further, clearly anti-police and has popped up on a police thread for no other reason than to stir the pot.

Originally Posted by rae (Post 11196710)

The alternative to this is do what has happened elsewhere, lower standards significantly to the point where you appeal to a wider pool of applicants, thus avoiding the need to recruit anywhere other than locally and one of the reasons other countries are not using this method of recruitment.

Originally Posted by rae (Post 11196710)

This policy of international recruitment should be applauded not derided, it brings diversity to the job and allows us to become even more representative of the community we serve, which has a large proportion of immigrants funnily enough.

Originally Posted by rae (Post 11196716)

It is a shame you did not print this bit from your own link....

Originally Posted by gigi69 (Post 11197080)

Lol, you have no idea how far from reality you are. I have the utmost respect for LEOs. Same goes for EMTs and firefighters. Please show me a single anti-police word I've said.
Just to be clear, my rant was triggered by someone (MetPolice2014) who thinks he/she is entitled to jump in front of the immigration line just because he/she is British and works for MET.
Rae, I am under the impression that you are a police officer. I don't have time to read all your 3,226 posts, but if this is true maybe you should work on your comprehension, I've heard they're a skill you really need on this job.


This is another slap in the face of all the other fine police forces in the world, and in the face of Canadians. Oh, look at us, we are the best police force in the world and we have the highest standards ... Unfortunately our society can't provide us with good quality applicants, hence we have to go recruit in the only other country in the world that has the same high standards like us, the almighty UK. Gimme a break, will you ?


Lol again. You know what would bring diversity to the job ? Having recruitment drives in China, in Philippines, in India, in Pakistan. All these countries send more immigrants to Canada than UK. Way more. I haven't heard yet about something like this. I'm pretty sure that among the 33,018 immigrants that came here from China, the 32,747 from Philippines and the 28,943 from India in 2012 there would be 2 or 3 who would be "good quality applicants to meet our goals", as Nige said. Unless they're all illiterate, fat, dumb criminals ...

Originally Posted by gigi69 (Post 11197080)

Lol again. You know what would bring diversity to the job ? Having recruitment drives in China, in Philippines, in India, in Pakistan.

Originally Posted by gigi69 (Post 11197080)

You know what would bring diversity to the job ? Having recruitment drives in China, in Philippines, in India, in Pakistan. All these countries send more immigrants to Canada than UK. Way more. I haven't heard yet about something like this. I'm pretty sure that among the 33,018 immigrants that came here from China, the 32,747 from Philippines and the 28,943 from India in 2012 there would be 2 or 3 who would be "good quality applicants to meet our goals".