Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Chantal F
(Post 12793749)
Hi Anto,
I do not think it is premature to go into details.... Many of us have to prepare a lot for the recruitment process....practicing English, training for the physical exercise etc, not to mention the fact that you also will have to travel to Poland on your own expenses if you come through the English test. For that matter, I think it is important whether or not the salary will be competitive. To speak for myself: I am not gonna leave my steady police job with a decent salary, pension etc for a job with a limited contract and a non competitive salary and above that taking the risk of being fired during the trial period of 9 Months if the salary is hardly enough to cover my life expenses anyway. The salary is not THE most important thing but in my opinion it is important enough to know this before going through this whole process. The details about the physical test are described quite detailed in the Selection documents. English test I do not know but it would be wise to practice with some tools mentioned here before on the forum. The interview.... I do not know what to expect.... I totally agree with your point because I am in the same situation with the same worries. "I won't gonna leave my current job with a decent salary, pension etc for a job with a limited contract and a non competitive salary and above that taking the risk of being fired if the salary is hardly enough to cover my life expenses anyway" . What I wanted to say is that I prefer to deal with them at a later stage if and when I will be able to go through the earlier ones. BTW from what I know the travel expenses and other subsistence allowance required to attend tests/interview etc. will be all refunded... |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by AntoU
(Post 12793767)
I Chantal
I totally agree with your point because I am in the same situation with the same worries. "I won't gonna leave my current job with a decent salary, pension etc for a job with a limited contract and a non competitive salary and above that taking the risk of being fired if the salary is hardly enough to cover my life expenses anyway" . What I wanted to say is that I prefer to deal with them at a later stage if and when I will be able to go through the earlier ones. BTW from what I know the travel expenses and other subsistence allowance required to attend tests/interview etc. will be all refunded... |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by gpiper
(Post 12793768)
How do you know that? Have you got a link to show or is that from previous experience?
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by AntoU
(Post 12793792)
Among the documents listed in the Frontex Open Selection Procedures page there is the "reimbursement of travel and subsistence expenses" form that should apply (frontex.europa.eu/assets/Careers/Application_for_reimbursement_of_travel_and_subsis tence_expenses.docx).
awesome thanks!!! |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Hello everyone, π₯π₯
First of all let me also say in plain B2 English - this is an excelent thread! π§²ππ I can only hope it will last during the selection process and I'm sure Frontex is here (among other watchers) to retain comments, ideas and concerns. π§π€ Fact is transparency can never fail. πΈπ― And we'll done George for opening this thread! Chapeau bas! π©π© I'm a counterterrorism intelligence officer (15 years), military academy graduate, with a relevant operational experience in Africa (6 years). π¦ππ Then I thought "let me rest a bit" .. Just when I was starting figuring out how the private sector works and struggling with the market, myself and everyone else about biz development, internationalization and smart specialization I ve received this link about the Frontex Standing Corps. Now I'm trying to retrain the race horse to be fit for his qualifying season... :-) Am I totally wrong if I say most of us are motivated by "being part of (this) history" and a different paradigm of tackling the way plan to protect Europe? Because this is the main driver for me. Red through Frontex new regulation and found it as being a fairly good lean strategy with the provision of reassessment in 2024 - not far - in all its aspects. I believe we should trust they will know how to pay, equip and train their guards to be more than some of those smiling "bullet catchers" we all have met from time to time ... :-) So what I'm trying to say is hat off to the thread and feeds of information and articles, keep practicing those situps in 60 secs and break a leg everyone! π²π²π² I sincerely wish all of us pass through this first selection process! ββ |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Hello to everybody from Greece!
Dimitris here, First of all I would like to wish all of us good luck and succeed to exams! Creation of this forum was a great idea so we all can share our opinion and clarify issues that are not clear! I 've read all messages and a lot of questions came into my mind but also and lots of answers!!!! I believe that the most difficult part of all is dealing with family matters! I don't know if any of you have families and/or children but I would like to know any information about the relocation conditions and time periods of Frontex assignments . ββAnyway, please, first one to receive an email give us a notice so to be prepared!! Again good luck to everybody!!! ββ |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Did anyone else apply for all 3 application processes? :lol:
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Fudokanconway
(Post 12794019)
Did anyone else apply for all 3 application processes? :lol:
So you are not alone. I am sure there are others as well! |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12793951)
Hello everyone, π₯π₯
First of all let me also say in plain B2 English - this is an excelent thread! π§²ππ I can only hope it will last during the selection process and I'm sure Frontex is here (among other watchers) to retain comments, ideas and concerns. π§π€ Fact is transparency can never fail. πΈπ― And we'll done George for opening this thread! Chapeau bas! π©π© I'm a counterterrorism intelligence officer (15 years), military academy graduate, with a relevant operational experience in Africa (6 years). π¦ππ Then I thought "let me rest a bit" .. Just when I was starting figuring out how the private sector works and struggling with the market, myself and everyone else about biz development, internationalization and smart specialization I ve received this link about the Frontex Standing Corps. Now I'm trying to retrain the race horse to be fit for his qualifying season... :-) Am I totally wrong if I say most of us are motivated by "being part of (this) history" and a different paradigm of tackling the way plan to protect Europe? Because this is the main driver for me. Red through Frontex new regulation and found it as being a fairly good lean strategy with the provision of reassessment in 2024 - not far - in all its aspects. I believe we should trust they will know how to pay, equip and train their guards to be more than some of those smiling "bullet catchers" we all have met from time to time ... :-) So what I'm trying to say is hat off to the thread and feeds of information and articles, keep practicing those situps in 60 secs and break a leg everyone! π²π²π² I sincerely wish all of us pass through this first selection process! ββ thank you for your kind words. Im glad to see this thread really catching on and becoming our little corner where we can come and find like minded people going through the same process and reach out with our questions and ideas. Moving forward as far as I am concerned I intend to share anything I find would help. We are all in this together after all!!! |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by papdimitris1
(Post 12794007)
Hello to everybody from Greece!
Dimitris here, First of all I would like to wish all of us good luck and succeed to exams! Creation of this forum was a great idea so we all can share our opinion and clarify issues that are not clear! I 've read all messages and a lot of questions came into my mind but also and lots of answers!!!! I believe that the most difficult part of all is dealing with family matters! I don't know if any of you have families and/or children but I would like to know any information about the relocation conditions and time periods of Frontex assignments . ββAnyway, please, first one to receive an email give us a notice so to be prepared!! Again good luck to everybody!!! ββ |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Do you think the situps will be with or without support on your legs?
The US military standard is with support. |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Just a bit of help,
After a bit of digging I found here= https://frontex.europa.eu/about-fron...ed-procedures/ That this group won the Provision of physical aptitude testing https://www.awf.edu.pl/ Could be a good place to try find out what the sit ups are like, Although you could be looking for a long time, I am sure they will tell us before the physical test what standards they want. The Met Police in the UK have a similar fitness test so this video indicates their sit ups are crunches so id practice crunches and Military sit ups too just encase. Beep test tips, |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
I am confused about the press ups. Selection notice is quite unclear on them. Firstly there are so many different types of press ups. Assuming we are going with the "standard" one it is also unclear how much time we have to do them and if we are expected to do them all in one go or a set of reps. 31 press ups for me seem quite steep to do in one set. Any ideas or tips as that is the area I'm lacking most at the moment.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by gpiper
(Post 12794344)
I am confused about the press ups. Selection notice is quite unclear on them. Firstly there are so many different types of press ups. Assuming we are going with the "standard" one it is also unclear how much time we have to do them and if we are expected to do them all in one go or a set of reps. 31 press ups for me seem quite steep to do in one set. Any ideas or tips as that is the area I'm lacking most at the moment.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Neven
(Post 12794355)
As I understand it, the number of reps refers to a time of 60 seconds.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by gpiper
(Post 12794357)
Yeah that is made clear for the situps and mentioned in the box but not for press ups. Plus say you are quick, does that mean you can stop for a few seconds keep position and then start again or once you start you don't stop. Important details for someone to know when they are preparing. At the moment I'm assuming the worst and going by that.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by AntoU
(Post 12793792)
Among the documents listed in the Frontex Open Selection Procedures page there is the "reimbursement of travel and subsistence expenses" form that should apply (frontex.europa.eu/assets/Careers/Application_for_reimbursement_of_travel_and_subsis tence_expenses.docx).
Couldnt help thinking that this means if we are lucky enough to be selected and pass the english online test, we will have to fly to Poland at least three times, physicall test, interview and medical exams if we get a job offer? And all at our own expenses? Correct me if im wrong. Thanks |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Tugapolice
(Post 12794460)
Hi every1
Couldnt help thinking that this means if we are lucky enough to be selected and pass the english online test, we will have to fly to Poland at least three times, physicall test, interview and medical exams if we get a job offer? And all at our own expenses? Correct me if im wrong. Thanks But reimbursed based on an expense note I believe. |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12794462)
Yes.
But reimbursed based on an expense note I believe. |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
I was thinking id doubt over the course of of the recruitment of 10000 border personel. Surely they won't want all 10000 to be based out of Warsaw. I'd reckon it will be like Military battalions on rotational deployments. Still something that will need more information on.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Fudokanconway
(Post 12794517)
I was thinking id doubt over the course of of the recruitment of 10000 border personel. Surely they won't want all 10000 to be based out of Warsaw. I'd reckon it will be like Military battalions on rotational deployments. Still something that will need more information on.
Found it https://rsaegean.org/en/the-making-of-a-super-agency/ |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Ah that makes more sense. That's a interesting read. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by gpiper
(Post 12794543)
They will not be employing 10000 Border Guards. Thats a communication trick. The 10000 number will be achieved by directly employed Border Guards and seconded ones on long term deployments. I read somewhere the projected number they are looking to employ directly but can't remember. Will look for it.
Found it https://rsaegean.org/en/the-making-of-a-super-agency/ It's all in the new Frontex Regulation in force on the 4th of December 2019. Worth reading it. But do not ignore your situps! :-) https://frontex.europa.eu/media-cent...o-force-S0luwe https://www.dropbox.com/s/phhgms6iwn...c2019.pdf?dl=0 |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12794555)
Fully agree.
It's all in the new Frontex Regulation in force on the 4th of December 2019. Worth reading it. But do not ignore your situps! :-) https://frontex.europa.eu/media-cent...o-force-S0luwe https://www.dropbox.com/s/phhgms6iwn...c2019.pdf?dl=0 |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by gpiper
(Post 12794872)
Only 130 pages? A bit of light reading before bed!!!!
Tried during situps but I'm losing count. ββββ |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12794882)
I'm reading it while doing my one-arm push-ups.
Tried during situps but I'm losing count. ββββ |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by gpiper
(Post 12794884)
Hahahaha I hope you are joking!!!! I'm off to do my beep test, cough up a lung and then face the floor whilst trying to get my push-up numbers up. The struggle is real!!!
But I'm sure we'll get there. Good luck. Started the beep test last week. Both speed and endurance achievable within my age group. I'm wondering if they will allow clapping hands push-ups? What do you think? :-) |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12794889)
Tell me about it!...
But I'm sure we'll get there. Good luck. Started the beep test last week. Both speed and endurance achievable within my age group. I'm wondering if they will allow clapping hands push-ups? What do you think? :-) Thanks for making me smile before I get out to the cold! |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Hey friends,
Next week Frontex wil start sending the emails to the short listed candidates. Fingers crossedπ€ |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Let's make bets on the sending date!...:-)
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Sorry guys, I'm as inpatient as most of you are. Just trying to take it easier.
I'm sure they know what they're doing. |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12795216)
Let's make bets on the sending date!...:-)
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Im going to say Monday is the online English test, First week in February will be the email stating the dates for the fitness assessment, Hopefully interviews are close to that.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
I am going with end of January. Prob Friday the 31st hehe. Mid February by the 10th-15th emails for the physicals beginning of March. Beginning of March the physicals and two weeks later interviews. Thinking offers and medicals in April. Hope we get enough notice to make arrangements esp plane tickets otherwise it could get pricey!
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Great idea! Is it just me thatβs checking their email in anticipation every half hour π
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Thejoyinart
(Post 12795910)
Great idea! Is it just me thatβs checking their email in anticipation every half hour π
You are not alone. :-) I'm doing it every 40 situps. It means 10 times a day. π |
Re: Frontex Border Guard
My bet: emails this coming week, Eng test in max 5 days from receiving the mail, physical by the 15th of Feb. Interview, medical and paperwork immediately after.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12795947)
My bet: emails this coming week, Eng test in max 5 days from receiving the mail, physical by the 15th of Feb. Interview, medical and paperwork immediately after.
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Chantal F
(Post 12796053)
I hope not....physical test 15 febr would be too soon for me...!:scaredhair:
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Re: Frontex Border Guard
Originally Posted by Stanx
(Post 12795946)
Welcome to the club.
You are not alone. :-) I'm doing it every 40 situps. It means 10 times a day. π |
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