War on Drugs
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Re: War on Drugs
I know quite a few people in Youkay who would be in favour of the State bumping of dealers !
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Re: War on Drugs
that should of course be "bumping off dealers"
ie extra-judicial execution.
Only the naïve would say that this has never been done by the State.
ie extra-judicial execution.
Only the naïve would say that this has never been done by the State.
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Re: War on Drugs
I think everybody got your meaning the first time! Do those people in the "Youkay" say why they are in favour of such a policy? Or maybe you yourself can?
You seem to be suggesting the policy these people are in favour of should be organised by the State. That would be a new thing for Britain as I can only think of a very few incidents over the past 40 or so years where the government has even been suspected of being involved in extra-judicial killing (let's call it killing, as execution gives the idea it is the result of a judicial process). One involved 3 IRA members in Gibraltar in the late 80s, and one in 2003 concerned the death of a scientist, Dr David Kelly, involved with a dossier on Iraq's biological weapons. The former looked to be clearly extra-judicial killing, but the latter has never been satisfactorily explained There may be one or two more, but it is a small number compared to the many well proven to have been carried out by eg Russia and its forerunner, the USSR, as well as by the USSR's satellite Eastern European States.
Around the world extra-judicial killing tends to be carried out in less developed countries. Official and non-governmental organisations monitor its occurence and as it is difficult, only occasionally bring the people involved to trial. Otherwise those countries become international pariahs, where no one from abroad except criminals will invest.
So, it probably has been done by the British State, but not much and not officially. The people you know, and maybe you, seem to want it to be official, or perhaps a sort of semi-official policy, as it seems to be in the Philippines at present
You seem to be suggesting the policy these people are in favour of should be organised by the State. That would be a new thing for Britain as I can only think of a very few incidents over the past 40 or so years where the government has even been suspected of being involved in extra-judicial killing (let's call it killing, as execution gives the idea it is the result of a judicial process). One involved 3 IRA members in Gibraltar in the late 80s, and one in 2003 concerned the death of a scientist, Dr David Kelly, involved with a dossier on Iraq's biological weapons. The former looked to be clearly extra-judicial killing, but the latter has never been satisfactorily explained There may be one or two more, but it is a small number compared to the many well proven to have been carried out by eg Russia and its forerunner, the USSR, as well as by the USSR's satellite Eastern European States.
Around the world extra-judicial killing tends to be carried out in less developed countries. Official and non-governmental organisations monitor its occurence and as it is difficult, only occasionally bring the people involved to trial. Otherwise those countries become international pariahs, where no one from abroad except criminals will invest.
So, it probably has been done by the British State, but not much and not officially. The people you know, and maybe you, seem to want it to be official, or perhaps a sort of semi-official policy, as it seems to be in the Philippines at present
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Re: War on Drugs
The other day I was in the local police station getting some papers certified. Outside was the usual gaggle of police watching a basketball match and in amongst them was a young lad of about 11 or 12 years old. I asked if they were training him up to be a policeman, pointing at the TV. They were not, he was being held ( can't arrest kids ) because he had murdered his drug addict father, by stabbing him in the neck
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Given 2 months of graphic news reports, statements and speeches casting drug addicts as sub-human, pushers, or potential pushers, we can't discount the possibility he was inspired to do what he did. One wonders what line they are taking on all this in schools here for his age...if he attends, that is?
Know Your Rights 4: 'Salvaging' | ABS-CBN News
A helpful guide for those "persons of interest" fearing salvage. It may not be read by many though, as most are presumably in hiding with their devices switched off,
Know Your Rights 4: 'Salvaging' | ABS-CBN News
A helpful guide for those "persons of interest" fearing salvage. It may not be read by many though, as most are presumably in hiding with their devices switched off,