Originally Posted by RedApe

This could be funny...driving around Manila asking taxi-cab drivers the address of a non-existent company. The ever-expanding family finding out what to spend their periodic windfalls on...and selling off old motorcycles to upgrade. "Maybe I should tell him him I'm going to Uni" "...that's good". "Maybe going to school in the US?" "What? Why so greedy! Leave some for the rest of us!"

How about Sleeping with the dog, and more dogs, and more dogs...while LL dotes on the dogs and not him.

All the lost wedding and engagement rings that keep getting lost in the strangest places. Funny how she keeps taking them off and losing them!

Crazy expensive wedding...the drag queen planners are perfect.

Jewelry! New business!

Ohhh...and the great mango glut! New business!

Money lending! New Business!

Oh, and have one sweet ethical gal that is observing all of this, and is also generally downtrodden by LL ("the only thing worse than being ugly...is being poor") and ignored by the protagonist, who swoops in and saves him at the last minute. The local villagers use the opportunity to assist the escape and hide their trail. Off they go to Palawan!

I'd suggest the lesbian comedian Margaret Cho for the lead...just the right amount of spleen and sarcastic remarks that would go right over the protagonists head.


Maybe call the film "Crazy Grift Asians".

Originally Posted by morpeth

I just raised the question whether all along deep down you enjoyed the drama, as evidenced not by your recent posts but the continued desire to go through all this for a number of years, and share the experience. Your recent posts neither prove or disprove this- though considering your recent responses and attitude, maybe you are realizing many comments on this thread were correct but you are too proud or stubborn to admit.. .

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl

Just wondering P11...was it worth it? I realise you mentioned in this thread that the state of your first marriage was not good. You gave up your home, sons, money etc for LL and life in the Philippines. Sorry if I am overstepping the mark, but I can’t help wondering...if you could turn back the clock, would you do it all over again?

Originally Posted by Philosophical 11

Good question. Unless I end up in "clink"... Most definitely yes. I love the Philippines.. The people and the climate. The last year has been a trial. Pun not intended...

Regards

Originally Posted by morpeth

Interesting question why just send part of envelope at all except to manipulate.

Originally Posted by Stokkevn

Hopefully P11 will know the local traps/pit falls to look out for in the future and avoid them if he stays

Originally Posted by Rete

Free lawyers are indeed available in many countries. In the US it is called Pro Bono. In both law firms that I've worked in during my career, attorneys were to 'volunteer' x number of hours per year doing pro bono work. The judicial system also has court appointed attorneys who will represent 'clients' and there is no cost to the client. Yes, it is not free because the citizens of the state pay their salary but it is indeed free to the client needing representation. Do you need examples?

Originally Posted by Philosophical 11

Quite agree. Think she has had 2 or 3 now...OK, not too expensive at about 850 peso and found nothing. She has had at least one D and C and a scrape.....maybe they are the same thing. Its not just the money that's the issue but the 10hr return journey also. I mentioned a while back that she wanted to change her gyne and get another (4th) opinion. I said no because it will mean a repeat of all these tests again. During the initial visit to this doctor, I put it to her what her GP said.....stress related. She insisted on the tests and 6 month programme. Anyway, I am sure I will hear more from the doctor at a later date.

Regards

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016

You cannot stop myomas or cancer by precautionary "treatment". You can deal with it when it happened.
As mallory said, hysterectomy is the treatment for myoma. The other option what her issue may be: endometriosis. Fits her symptoms but doesn't cause myoma or cancer.

Originally Posted by RedApe

Agree with Spouse of Scouse...she has shown you a bogus document...which is why she didn't show you the complete document.

She fabricated it to suggest the real document was forged. But she doesn't want you to have access to the registration number or witness names or the official who supposedly signed it. Or perhaps even the date of marriage.

It makes no sense for the official to perjure himself as well as the witnesses (yeah money could be paid, but they will deny it...and charging that officials and others committed a crime is itself a serious matter). She will, in effect, be claiming that the official, the witnesses, perhaps her father (doesn't he have to sign some sort of document), and her ostensible first husband all committed a crime. As I pointed out this will have to be adjudicated first.

This, at that point, has nothing to do with you, and you need not get involved in it. If she tries to show that your evidence of prior marriage is incorrect they will need to prove separately that the marriage document was forged.

Now the Court will issue an order for the actual document on file to be brought forward. They will not accept a document just handed to them by a plaintiff. If she tries to foist off her fake on the court they will charge HER with evidence tampering.



I suggest you might look into whether this is the case. She may be attempting to deter you from looking.


Again, how can she afford a lawyer if she believes that you cannot? If she can her resources exceed yours. But this is supposedly the same lawyer that asserts that he can prove in court that the marriage is fake "with the documents they have received"? But she doesn't state what documents those are (other than a partial glimpse at a document that she will not let you look at in toto- even though that was a requisite for you to continue her allowance)...and as I note, proving the marriage was false must precede any trial involving you. That must be established in a separate trial. Once fraud is indeed established by these other parties then she can show evidence that she was unaware of being defrauded until after her marriage to you.

TIMELINE



One daughter already born, he beat his GF badly enough that she was in hospital in 2006. Second daughter (the one that the husband asserted he desired the marriage in order to "give her his name") was born 2 years after the "fake marriage". That means GF wasn't even pregnant when the fake marriage supposedly took place. After the beating she went back to him, then got pregnant again (daughter #2). Does that make any sense at all? Is there a hospital or police record of this beating coincident with the supposed fake wedding? A wedding that she could not attend. Yet she expects us to believe that the pastor, clerk, and witnesses (and perhaps her father) signed documents that formalized a "brideless" wedding in absentia? Maybe a bridesmaid impersonated Lovely Lady? Signed the documents for her? That's a massive conspiracy...I'm sure that these people will be quite interested in subpoenaing records in which she might assert that she recognized that she was married. Her immigration documents and employment documents. Did they mention that she was married and had children? Other documents? School records?

As to knowledge of the marriage: Presumably she was aware that this second daughter bore his surname (while daughter #1 did not). Therefore she must have known about the fake marriage sometime about 2008, or earlier. She did nothing to challenge or annul it.
2006 was 14 years ago. Daughter #2 must be about 12; born around 2008.



Okay her Kuwait contract was @ 2011-2015. So that would allow the two boys to be born in the window between 2009 and 2011. They should now be between 11-9 years old. Unless one was born after her Kuwait contract ended in 2015. If the latter that would mean that LL was reconciled with him in 2015 when she returned and got pregnant again. Phil11 started this blog on January 29th, 2015 and had already made contact with LL by then. I think that scenario is unlikely so let's go with the first one...boys born b/w 2009-2011. But there was no marriage to legitimize these boys back in 2008-2011? Why not? At the time LL"thought she was single" with two illegitimate daughters, so she claims. Why not get married? Was she not aware that the fellow she cohabitated with repeatedly was a gigolo and drunk?
But maybe he wasn't that way when she left him in charge of the sons and sending him money. At that point he was reliable.
If so I'd think "partner #2" would be a far better candidate as one that she would want to get married before she took off to work in Kuwait. Why didn't she?

Or did she KNOW that she could NOT get married to him because she already was married?

That was after she left, if she's not telling porkies.

Better to find a "not working" British guy on the internet who spends his own pension money on younger women and boozing.

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016

Just reading through your above post makes it clear how she pulls the wool over your eyes. Did you ever find out what the diagnosis is?
D&C and a "scrape" are indeed the same thing. It involves 1 night inpatient considering the long trip back home. How many D&Cs does one need to establish a problem? One, and this is often done in case of heavy menstruation or to do may be a biopsy. What are repeated ultrasound scans supposed to achieve? Money into the quacks pocket. The medication course she needed was? Look it up on the internet if you have the name. This should give you a clue to her problem(s). It is not stress.
Gyne problems are the ones of which men know very little and don't want to know either. She can keep on playing the game with you until you wake up.

You ought to get yourself into a new environment outside the Phils and away from her msgs. Remember the Thai "frog in the coconut" nonthaburi quoted. You are the frog. Your new home has changed nothing in your life but you visit a different bar. You took your "luggage" with you.