Why train someone you've no job for?
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Why train someone you've no job for?
Hello all, This is a rant and information seeking thread all at the same time.
I'm due (touch wood) to qualify in just over 6 months and have started to dip my toe in the search for a job as a newly qualified nurse. My local hospital has one job and in the current climate is unlikely to change. Then I checked the county and a few more but nothing that applies to myself really. Then I checked London and more options but still very limited if truth be told.
It's so frustrating to think of all the work put in and to find no job at the end. In an ideal world I'd walk straight into a job on my local vascular surgical ward (the area I want to one day specialise in) have a job, do some form of preceptorship course ground my knowledge and build experience for a year or so before flying off into the world.
This doesn't even look like 2% could happen and I'm feeling abit down about it, Has anyone qualified recently and actually even though it looked bleak there were jobs about?
What are the odds of moving abroad with no experience? If I've read correct Oz wants 6-12 months experience and the US is very difficult to get into without any also. I'd be pretty happy to go to anywhere so long as my newly qualified status is understood and I had some form of preceptorship course and I could develop and ground my knowledge, I'm just worried only speaking English (badly) would hold me back.
Any advice out there of possible avenues open to me?
Many thanks for any help.
A very worried student.
I'm due (touch wood) to qualify in just over 6 months and have started to dip my toe in the search for a job as a newly qualified nurse. My local hospital has one job and in the current climate is unlikely to change. Then I checked the county and a few more but nothing that applies to myself really. Then I checked London and more options but still very limited if truth be told.
It's so frustrating to think of all the work put in and to find no job at the end. In an ideal world I'd walk straight into a job on my local vascular surgical ward (the area I want to one day specialise in) have a job, do some form of preceptorship course ground my knowledge and build experience for a year or so before flying off into the world.
This doesn't even look like 2% could happen and I'm feeling abit down about it, Has anyone qualified recently and actually even though it looked bleak there were jobs about?
What are the odds of moving abroad with no experience? If I've read correct Oz wants 6-12 months experience and the US is very difficult to get into without any also. I'd be pretty happy to go to anywhere so long as my newly qualified status is understood and I had some form of preceptorship course and I could develop and ground my knowledge, I'm just worried only speaking English (badly) would hold me back.
Any advice out there of possible avenues open to me?
Many thanks for any help.
A very worried student.
Last edited by Drumstick; Jun 6th 2012 at 5:56 pm.
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Google nurse retrogression for the USA. There will not be any visas for nurses for many years. A better bet would be Canada, but you will have to have all of the course work that North America requires. There are several threads in the US forums about this. Best of luck to you in your future.
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Depending on route you look at for Canada if FSW without employer then 12 months full time employment is required.
Just to say when I qualified way back in the 80's many of us had a problem on finding a job so comes and goes but I don't think current health climate in the UK is helping
Just to say when I qualified way back in the 80's many of us had a problem on finding a job so comes and goes but I don't think current health climate in the UK is helping
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Not a great difference here in South Aus, very few graduate programs being offered
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Hi Drumstick,
My advice would be to take any job available once qualified to get your foot in the door. There are lots of newly qualified nurses who have to do this and who knows, you may even enjoy your new job. As for grad programs in Australia I have come across quite a few but do not really know if any one has been successful in gaining a place despite me offering links for them to use. One of the best in Ramsey Health, they have grad programs in NSW, QLD and VIC. They are competitive but occassionally they do offer overseas sponsorship. Here is the link http://www.gradplus.com.au/ This link should give you a start in your research for graduate positions. Don't be dis-heartened, there are many hospitals in Australia and if you don't mind where about you go it should be easier for you.
Good luck with everything
My advice would be to take any job available once qualified to get your foot in the door. There are lots of newly qualified nurses who have to do this and who knows, you may even enjoy your new job. As for grad programs in Australia I have come across quite a few but do not really know if any one has been successful in gaining a place despite me offering links for them to use. One of the best in Ramsey Health, they have grad programs in NSW, QLD and VIC. They are competitive but occassionally they do offer overseas sponsorship. Here is the link http://www.gradplus.com.au/ This link should give you a start in your research for graduate positions. Don't be dis-heartened, there are many hospitals in Australia and if you don't mind where about you go it should be easier for you.
Good luck with everything
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Thanks for the advice everyone you too classybird, I have to post once more after this to be able to see the PM you sent? Funny system I will take a look at that link though thank you.
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Hello all, This is a rant and information seeking thread all at the same time.
I'm due (touch wood) to qualify in just over 6 months and have started to dip my toe in the search for a job as a newly qualified nurse. My local hospital has one job and in the current climate is unlikely to change. Then I checked the county and a few more but nothing that applies to myself really. Then I checked London and more options but still very limited if truth be told.
It's so frustrating to think of all the work put in and to find no job at the end. In an ideal world I'd walk straight into a job on my local vascular surgical ward (the area I want to one day specialise in) have a job, do some form of preceptorship course ground my knowledge and build experience for a year or so before flying off into the world.
This doesn't even look like 2% could happen and I'm feeling abit down about it, Has anyone qualified recently and actually even though it looked bleak there were jobs about?
What are the odds of moving abroad with no experience? If I've read correct Oz wants 6-12 months experience and the US is very difficult to get into without any also. I'd be pretty happy to go to anywhere so long as my newly qualified status is understood and I had some form of preceptorship course and I could develop and ground my knowledge, I'm just worried only speaking English (badly) would hold me back.
Any advice out there of possible avenues open to me?
Many thanks for any help.
A very worried student.
I'm due (touch wood) to qualify in just over 6 months and have started to dip my toe in the search for a job as a newly qualified nurse. My local hospital has one job and in the current climate is unlikely to change. Then I checked the county and a few more but nothing that applies to myself really. Then I checked London and more options but still very limited if truth be told.
It's so frustrating to think of all the work put in and to find no job at the end. In an ideal world I'd walk straight into a job on my local vascular surgical ward (the area I want to one day specialise in) have a job, do some form of preceptorship course ground my knowledge and build experience for a year or so before flying off into the world.
This doesn't even look like 2% could happen and I'm feeling abit down about it, Has anyone qualified recently and actually even though it looked bleak there were jobs about?
What are the odds of moving abroad with no experience? If I've read correct Oz wants 6-12 months experience and the US is very difficult to get into without any also. I'd be pretty happy to go to anywhere so long as my newly qualified status is understood and I had some form of preceptorship course and I could develop and ground my knowledge, I'm just worried only speaking English (badly) would hold me back.
Any advice out there of possible avenues open to me?
Many thanks for any help.
A very worried student.
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Hi i was offereed a new grad ppostion with ramsey health in WA and also I was offered in Townsville as well. xx Also I know we are recruiting in WA for overseas nurses.
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Try www.seek.com.au as there are a few grad positions on there. Here is one
http://jobs.seek.com.au/Job/graduate...perth/22364347
All the best
http://jobs.seek.com.au/Job/graduate...perth/22364347
All the best
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
This happened to us in 2007. Husband did mental health nurse training via diploma route, so received a significant bursary (that's why he did that rather than degree as we were a young family)- no student debt, a manageable bursary and all earnings tax free while training. That's quite a government investment. In the final year his entire cohort were told there were no jobs for them and they'd have to look out of county. The seconded students (had been NAs and trained on their prior salaries) were offered their pre-training jobs back.
We had plans to move to NZ anyway but had begun to toy with staying put, but as we then had to move away from family and friends anyway, we just carried on with plan A. We had the pick of anywhere in NZ and they offered us a decent relocation package too.
We had plans to move to NZ anyway but had begun to toy with staying put, but as we then had to move away from family and friends anyway, we just carried on with plan A. We had the pick of anywhere in NZ and they offered us a decent relocation package too.
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Re: Why train someone you've no job for?
Hi Bourbon!!
Same with me, I trained in uk an qualified sept "10. Had a job secured in NZ before i even qualified.
Drumstick, there are ALWAYS jobs in NZ and some parts of Aus for newly qualified nurses, just trawl the web,ask questions and research. And if al else fails the DHB im working for us on their knees looking for nurses, they'll even pay for your flight.
Same with me, I trained in uk an qualified sept "10. Had a job secured in NZ before i even qualified.
Drumstick, there are ALWAYS jobs in NZ and some parts of Aus for newly qualified nurses, just trawl the web,ask questions and research. And if al else fails the DHB im working for us on their knees looking for nurses, they'll even pay for your flight.