Learning Disability Nursing
Jul 28th 2005, 7:26 am
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Learning Disability Nursing
After feeling chuffed to bits to be accepted on the above course, I then hear a rumour that Australia don't recognise it as a qualification.
So I email a couple of states including QLD and SA to be told the following:
'This branch of nursing is not recognised as an endorsement in Queensland. You would have to contact individual hospitals for work in that particular area.
You will have to contact the other States and Territories in Australia to find out from them.'
Then from SA, I get told: 'Thank you for your email received at the Nurses Board of South Australia on the 27/7/2005.
If your course leads to you becoming either and Enrolled Nurse, General Nurse, Midwife or Mental Health Nurse then we can register or enrol your qualification.
If it does not lead to the above mentioned qualifications, then we do not recognise this course.
Yours sincerely
Registration Services'
So now it looks like I am going to have to change brances and I really didnt want to do that.
If anyone at all can shed some light on this I would be grateful.
Yours very depressed
Samantha
So I email a couple of states including QLD and SA to be told the following:
'This branch of nursing is not recognised as an endorsement in Queensland. You would have to contact individual hospitals for work in that particular area.
You will have to contact the other States and Territories in Australia to find out from them.'
Then from SA, I get told: 'Thank you for your email received at the Nurses Board of South Australia on the 27/7/2005.
If your course leads to you becoming either and Enrolled Nurse, General Nurse, Midwife or Mental Health Nurse then we can register or enrol your qualification.
If it does not lead to the above mentioned qualifications, then we do not recognise this course.
Yours sincerely
Registration Services'
So now it looks like I am going to have to change brances and I really didnt want to do that.
If anyone at all can shed some light on this I would be grateful.
Yours very depressed
Samantha
Jul 28th 2005, 8:03 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
After feeling chuffed to bits to be accepted on the above course, I then hear a rumour that Australia don't recognise it as a qualification.
So I email a couple of states including QLD and SA to be told the following:
'This branch of nursing is not recognised as an endorsement in Queensland. You would have to contact individual hospitals for work in that particular area.
You will have to contact the other States and Territories in Australia to find out from them.'
Then from SA, I get told: 'Thank you for your email received at the Nurses Board of South Australia on the 27/7/2005.
If your course leads to you becoming either and Enrolled Nurse, General Nurse, Midwife or Mental Health Nurse then we can register or enrol your qualification.
If it does not lead to the above mentioned qualifications, then we do not recognise this course.
Yours sincerely
Registration Services'
So now it looks like I am going to have to change brances and I really didnt want to do that.
If anyone at all can shed some light on this I would be grateful.
Yours very depressed
Samantha
So I email a couple of states including QLD and SA to be told the following:
'This branch of nursing is not recognised as an endorsement in Queensland. You would have to contact individual hospitals for work in that particular area.
You will have to contact the other States and Territories in Australia to find out from them.'
Then from SA, I get told: 'Thank you for your email received at the Nurses Board of South Australia on the 27/7/2005.
If your course leads to you becoming either and Enrolled Nurse, General Nurse, Midwife or Mental Health Nurse then we can register or enrol your qualification.
If it does not lead to the above mentioned qualifications, then we do not recognise this course.
Yours sincerely
Registration Services'
So now it looks like I am going to have to change brances and I really didnt want to do that.
If anyone at all can shed some light on this I would be grateful.
Yours very depressed
Samantha
This has cropped up before.
There are very few jobs advertised for Learning disability nurses and I do not think the same distinctions are made as in the UK.
Your best bet would be to gor for a MH nursing course (especially as I am a nurse Tutor/Lecturer in MH nursing
).Good luck
G
Jul 28th 2005, 8:23 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
Originally Posted by Grayling
Sam
This has cropped up before.
There are very few jobs advertised for Learning disability nurses and I do not think the same distinctions are made as in the UK.
Your best bet would be to gor for a MH nursing course (especially as I am a nurse Tutor/Lecturer in MH nursing ).
Good luck
G
This has cropped up before.
There are very few jobs advertised for Learning disability nurses and I do not think the same distinctions are made as in the UK.
Your best bet would be to gor for a MH nursing course (especially as I am a nurse Tutor/Lecturer in MH nursing
).Good luck
G
Trouble is G, I dont want to do MH. I was happy with my choice. I dont want to change at all.
I have heard NSW recognise it. Isnt Developmental Nursing the same, I have heard that before.
If I have to change, I will do Paeds, but boy will it screw everything up as I have applied for my bursary and everything.
QLD said that its down to the individual State to accept the qualification, so we shall see what happens.
It will all come out in the wash as my mate tells me. (puts head in hands and starts rocking with dispair)
Jul 28th 2005, 8:29 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
Jul 28th 2005, 8:34 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
hello PP,
yes i think you're right although someone may prove me wrong, learning disabilitiy nurses are not recognised. i'm a peads nurse and work with children with complex health needs and LD's. last year i knew someone who was trying to do the same as yourself and emigrate with that qualifacation unfortunately it wasn't recognised and shes now in the process of doing her conversion to adult.
if you do change branch, persoanally i would reccomend doing your adult training because then you can go onto working in LD or any other branch afterwards, whereas if you do your paeds you will still have to re-train the whole 3 years to be a LD nurse or adult.
why if you change branch do you think you won't be entitled to a bursery?
good luck with your decision
debs x
yes i think you're right although someone may prove me wrong, learning disabilitiy nurses are not recognised. i'm a peads nurse and work with children with complex health needs and LD's. last year i knew someone who was trying to do the same as yourself and emigrate with that qualifacation unfortunately it wasn't recognised and shes now in the process of doing her conversion to adult.
if you do change branch, persoanally i would reccomend doing your adult training because then you can go onto working in LD or any other branch afterwards, whereas if you do your paeds you will still have to re-train the whole 3 years to be a LD nurse or adult.
why if you change branch do you think you won't be entitled to a bursery?
good luck with your decision
debs x
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Jul 28th 2005, 8:58 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
After feeling chuffed to bits to be accepted on the above course, I then hear a rumour that Australia don't recognise it as a qualification.
So I email a couple of states including QLD and SA to be told the following:
'This branch of nursing is not recognised as an endorsement in Queensland. You would have to contact individual hospitals for work in that particular area.
You will have to contact the other States and Territories in Australia to find out from them.'
Then from SA, I get told: 'Thank you for your email received at the Nurses Board of South Australia on the 27/7/2005.
If your course leads to you becoming either and Enrolled Nurse, General Nurse, Midwife or Mental Health Nurse then we can register or enrol your qualification.
If it does not lead to the above mentioned qualifications, then we do not recognise this course.
Yours sincerely
Registration Services'
So now it looks like I am going to have to change brances and I really didnt want to do that.
If anyone at all can shed some light on this I would be grateful.
Yours very depressed
Samantha
So I email a couple of states including QLD and SA to be told the following:
'This branch of nursing is not recognised as an endorsement in Queensland. You would have to contact individual hospitals for work in that particular area.
You will have to contact the other States and Territories in Australia to find out from them.'
Then from SA, I get told: 'Thank you for your email received at the Nurses Board of South Australia on the 27/7/2005.
If your course leads to you becoming either and Enrolled Nurse, General Nurse, Midwife or Mental Health Nurse then we can register or enrol your qualification.
If it does not lead to the above mentioned qualifications, then we do not recognise this course.
Yours sincerely
Registration Services'
So now it looks like I am going to have to change brances and I really didnt want to do that.
If anyone at all can shed some light on this I would be grateful.
Yours very depressed
Samantha
I was also surprised when I discovered that I could not register as a Learning Disability nurse in SA (I am the main visa applicant and developmental disabled nursing is on the list for STNI in SA!!!!). I was told by The nursing board of SA that I could register with the Queensland board and still work as a nurse in SA (which confuses me a bit and seems to contradict with what you've found out). If we get the visa we're going to Adelaide. It's quite hard to get information in Britain on jobs in Australia (I actually work in learning disability forensics services which is very specialised). Having said that I haven't spent hours searching the net. I've decided that it'll probably be easier to a bit of research when we get there and accept the possibility that I may not be able to work as a nurse (and possibly struggle to get work within the disability sector without additonal training!!!) Fortunately, my partner should be able to find work quite easily and so we won't be relying on me to immediately get a job. Sorry I can't help any more with your decison about which branch to choose. Let me know if you decide to continue with learning disability nursing and I'll keep in touch with my experiences.
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Jul 28th 2005, 9:07 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
Originally Posted by debbiemc
hello PP,
yes i think you're right although someone may prove me wrong, learning disabilitiy nurses are not recognised. i'm a peads nurse and work with children with complex health needs and LD's. last year i knew someone who was trying to do the same as yourself and emigrate with that qualifacation unfortunately it wasn't recognised and shes now in the process of doing her conversion to adult.
if you do change branch, persoanally i would reccomend doing your adult training because then you can go onto working in LD or any other branch afterwards, whereas if you do your paeds you will still have to re-train the whole 3 years to be a LD nurse or adult.
why if you change branch do you think you won't be entitled to a bursery?
good luck with your decision
debs x
yes i think you're right although someone may prove me wrong, learning disabilitiy nurses are not recognised. i'm a peads nurse and work with children with complex health needs and LD's. last year i knew someone who was trying to do the same as yourself and emigrate with that qualifacation unfortunately it wasn't recognised and shes now in the process of doing her conversion to adult.
if you do change branch, persoanally i would reccomend doing your adult training because then you can go onto working in LD or any other branch afterwards, whereas if you do your paeds you will still have to re-train the whole 3 years to be a LD nurse or adult.
why if you change branch do you think you won't be entitled to a bursery?
good luck with your decision
debs x
They did say that once qualified in LD, we could just sit the extra modules to convert to another branch.
Its so annoying when you check out the job description of developmental nursing and its the same as LD.
Im still awaiting to hear from NSW.
I wouldnt mind, but you get told by NMAS or Uni that your qualification is recognised everywhere.
Jul 28th 2005, 9:15 am
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stinks dosen't it!! good luck with whatever you chose to do but it does look like if you want to get to aus on a nursing qualification, you're gonna have to change aren't you?!
its the time thing aswell isn't it? if you qualify in one field and then have to do another year, 18 months change field. saying that though you could always do that when you get to aus maybe.
deb x
its the time thing aswell isn't it? if you qualify in one field and then have to do another year, 18 months change field. saying that though you could always do that when you get to aus maybe.
deb x
Jul 28th 2005, 9:24 am
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Would you say its totally impossible to get in on this qualification? I wouldnt mind doing a conversion when I get there?
Time is running out for me - Im 38 next sunday.
I might drown my sorrows.
Time is running out for me - Im 38 next sunday.
I might drown my sorrows.
Jul 28th 2005, 9:41 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
Would you say its totally impossible to get in on this qualification? I wouldnt mind doing a conversion when I get there?
Time is running out for me - Im 38 next sunday.
I might drown my sorrows.
Time is running out for me - Im 38 next sunday.
I might drown my sorrows.
i was going to mention age earlier and say that if you're young enough it dosen't really matter does it, but i was mid thirtys when and new what i wanted to do as you doand because of my age, new i wouldn't want to be training for years. its bloody hard work though running a home, family, working full time and studying and when you qualify the studying dosen't stop. i should be writing an assignment right now!
all i will say is that i love nursing children, and if you had the chance to change, would recommend it especially now looking after kids with llld's and special needs. and lets face it, it's better to wipe little bums than big ones
don't reach for the bottle yet, keep a clear head and talk with the uni about your options.
Jul 28th 2005, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by debbiemc
i wouldn't like to say PP, sorry, just that like i said someone at work changed branch for the very same reason!
i was going to mention age earlier and say that if you're young enough it dosen't really matter does it, but i was mid thirtys when and new what i wanted to do as you doand because of my age, new i wouldn't want to be training for years. its bloody hard work though running a home, family, working full time and studying and when you qualify the studying dosen't stop. i should be writing an assignment right now!
all i will say is that i love nursing children, and if you had the chance to change, would recommend it especially now looking after kids with llld's and special needs. and lets face it, it's better to wipe little bums than big ones
don't reach for the bottle yet, keep a clear head and talk with the uni about your options.
i was going to mention age earlier and say that if you're young enough it dosen't really matter does it, but i was mid thirtys when and new what i wanted to do as you doand because of my age, new i wouldn't want to be training for years. its bloody hard work though running a home, family, working full time and studying and when you qualify the studying dosen't stop. i should be writing an assignment right now!
all i will say is that i love nursing children, and if you had the chance to change, would recommend it especially now looking after kids with llld's and special needs. and lets face it, it's better to wipe little bums than big ones
don't reach for the bottle yet, keep a clear head and talk with the uni about your options.
I might ask our nurse tutor that comes into our office.
Do you think it will be hard to change brances before Sept?
Jul 28th 2005, 10:02 am
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just phone the school of nursing now, ask to speak to personel and they will put you in touch with the right person, try to speak with the head of branch, the branch you want to change to that is because LD will do everything to keep you!
it will depend if anyone has dropped out of the course i would think for you to get a place as they are usually always full, now might be a good time to get a place as its getting close. they will ask your reasons for wanting to change,(don't mention aus!) just bullshit them that you think you'll be making aq mistake and don't want to end up dropping out half way through the cousre because you've made a mistake!
it will depend if anyone has dropped out of the course i would think for you to get a place as they are usually always full, now might be a good time to get a place as its getting close. they will ask your reasons for wanting to change,(don't mention aus!) just bullshit them that you think you'll be making aq mistake and don't want to end up dropping out half way through the cousre because you've made a mistake!
Jul 28th 2005, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by debbiemc
just phone the school of nursing now, ask to speak to personel and they will put you in touch with the right person, try to speak with the head of branch, the branch you want to change to that is because LD will do everything to keep you!
it will depend if anyone has dropped out of the course i would think for you to get a place as they are usually always full, now might be a good time to get a place as its getting close. they will ask your reasons for wanting to change,(don't mention aus!) just bullshit them that you think you'll be making aq mistake and don't want to end up dropping out half way through the cousre because you've made a mistake!
it will depend if anyone has dropped out of the course i would think for you to get a place as they are usually always full, now might be a good time to get a place as its getting close. they will ask your reasons for wanting to change,(don't mention aus!) just bullshit them that you think you'll be making aq mistake and don't want to end up dropping out half way through the cousre because you've made a mistake!
I feel gutted I really do. Im so gutted I am tempted to stick with it. I have heard that Paeds are full, would need to check it out.
I would rather start the course I want than to defer again till Jan. I was meant to start in Jan but all courses were full.
Bugger Australia if they cant recognise something that is the same but worded differently in the title.
Ive heard NZ snap LD nurses up but again, I dont know what to think now.
There is no way I can defer not now.
I might just ride this one out you know, my instincts tell me not to do anything hasty.
I wish you were here so we could gossip about this over a coffee/ten litres of wine.
Jul 28th 2005, 11:02 am
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Re: Learning Disability Nursing
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
I feel gutted I really do. Im so gutted I am tempted to stick with it. I have heard that Paeds are full, would need to check it out.
I would rather start the course I want than to defer again till Jan. I was meant to start in Jan but all courses were full.
Bugger Australia if they cant recognise something that is the same but worded differently in the title.
Ive heard NZ snap LD nurses up but again, I dont know what to think now.
There is no way I can defer not now.
I might just ride this one out you know, my instincts tell me not to do anything hasty.
I wish you were here so we could gossip about this over a coffee/ten litres of wine.
I would rather start the course I want than to defer again till Jan. I was meant to start in Jan but all courses were full.
Bugger Australia if they cant recognise something that is the same but worded differently in the title.
Ive heard NZ snap LD nurses up but again, I dont know what to think now.
There is no way I can defer not now.
I might just ride this one out you know, my instincts tell me not to do anything hasty.
I wish you were here so we could gossip about this over a coffee/ten litres of wine.
Hi
This may be of no help whatsoever but, I am in the process of completing my adult nursing degree in 3 weeks time.
You would have an option with the uni I studied with to change 'branches' after 1st year, (ie. start in MH and change to Adult etc.). Check with your uni.
Anyway, this may be an option to start your course in LD and change to Adult after year 1, therefore not missing the opportunity to start in September. Also, up here we dont have this course specifically for LD nurses, this is integrated into the adult nursing course in the form of one module in 3rd year (very basic of course). However, you can specialise upon graduation, top-up degree in LD, full time or distance learning.
I would agree with OP train in an area you will be able to work in OZ and then specialise later.
I have had permanent visa since 2002, but decided to stay here and undertake my degree and chuffed to bits now that I did. I am moving to Perth in 8 weeks and was worried about being newly qualified but have been given great feedback re:employment, and thats what matters.
Anyway, all the very best with whichever course you undertake, I'm sure you'll love it, well sometimes but not all the time.
Cheers
Michelle
Jul 28th 2005, 11:12 am
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stick with your instincts, you obviously want to do LD training so go for it. yep, think i've seen NZ accept, so if it came to it, you could always go there and after 5 years i believe can go to aus, don't quote me on that one though!
a friend of mine who is living and working in townsville told me that in QLD there are no respite services for children with special needs and LDs!!! they have to go into hospital! how crap is that! maybe if they recognised a need there wouldbe a call for LD nurses eh!
would love to do wine, don't drink coffee i'm afraid!
which uni will you be going to?
i keep switching off to start my assignment and somehow my finger hits that back button! must be the shakes from drinking too much wine!
you know what pp, i'm a firm believer in what will be......
a friend of mine who is living and working in townsville told me that in QLD there are no respite services for children with special needs and LDs!!! they have to go into hospital! how crap is that! maybe if they recognised a need there wouldbe a call for LD nurses eh!
would love to do wine, don't drink coffee i'm afraid!
which uni will you be going to?
i keep switching off to start my assignment and somehow my finger hits that back button! must be the shakes from drinking too much wine!
you know what pp, i'm a firm believer in what will be......