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Old Mar 18th 2014, 11:00 pm
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Hi all I am currently a registered nurse in the uk, I have been qualified for 2 years. I graduated with BSc hons and since graduating I have worked in the burns unit at my local hospital.

My family and I are looking to move to Western Australia.

Could anyone help me start the process off?
If I graduated with BSc hons in the uk what level is this when applying to register with Ahpra?



Very confused!!! Any advice welcome.
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Old Mar 18th 2014, 11:04 pm
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Originally Posted by deadlyminimee
If I graduated with BSc hons in the uk what level is this when applying to register with Ahpra?



Very confused!!! Any advice welcome.

It means you can register as a nurse.....as can any UK registered nurse.

Not sure what else you mean?
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What is my BSc hons equivalent to in the Australian qualification framework?
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A degree in UK is a degree in Australia x
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What is my BSc hons equivalent to in the Australian qualification framework?
Presumably an Australian BSc honours degree.

It is a qualification which will allow you to register....as will a UK diploma.

All registered nurse training in Australia is degree based.
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Which visa are you looking at applying for? You may need to get your skills assessed by ANMAC and take IELTS. If these are required for the type of visa you are looking at, they need to be completed before you put in your Expression of Interest x
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With this qualification and 2 years post grad experience as a uk band 5, what nursing level could I expect to enter? I.e 1.1, 1.2 etc?
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With this qualification and 2 years post grad experience as a uk band 5, what nursing level could I expect to enter? I.e 1.1, 1.2 etc?
The level is determined by whatever level you are able to negotiate....you need to apply for jobs and see where that takes you.....as an RN you will probably be offered a basic level job with increments based on your years of experience......if you want a higher grade you need to apply for it and compete with whoever else applies....same as UK

Your original qualification will not affect that once you are registered.
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Isn't there changes occurring with APHRA and registration to whether UK specialist training will be accepted instead of General trained?
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Isn't there changes occurring with APHRA and registration to whether UK specialist training will be accepted instead of General trained?
Not that I know. There was a suggestion a while back that a separate registration may be created for overseas Mental Health nurses but that is not the current position.
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Read this as well as seen a discussion on another website. Not sure if it will have any impact on UK nurses.

In February 2014, the National Board and AHPRA implemented a new model to support the nationally consistent assessment of the qualifications of internationally qualified nurses and midwives.

The assessment decides whether an international applicant has a qualification that matches the standard of (in the National Law this is called ‘substantially equivalent to’) a current graduate of a Board-approved program of study.


http://www.nursingmidwiferyboard.gov...pplicants.aspx
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As far as I understand it, we have been looking into this as my wife holds a Dip HE and my first qualification is a Dip HE, is that the Australian bachelors degree (no hons) that leads to RN in OZ is the equivalent of a UK Dip HE Nursing (registered nurse).

However, the BSc (hons) is higher than the Dip HE, in both Aus and UK as you would expect.

Those who graduated from the UK without (Hons) and have an ordinary degree with registration should also gain RN status. It should only by UK SEN's and EN's that can only reg as EN in Aus.

Nonetheless, UK Dip HE nurses can hold RN status in Aus, they are not EN's and hold and equivalent qualification. I find this all a bit though. Regardless Dip and BSc UK nurses all study 2300 hrs theory and 2300 hours clinical practice compared to Aus pre reg education students who only study 900hrs clinical practice (im not sure about theoretical content). So the fact we have to jump through so many hoops is frustrating!

By the way, Im not bitter.. I hold a Dip HE, BSc, PGCHE, RNT, MSc, EdD.

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Originally Posted by mdhillug03
As far as I understand it, we have been looking into this as my wife holds a Dip HE and my first qualification is a Dip HE is that the Australian bachelors degree (no hons) that leads to RN in OZ is the equivalent of a UK Dip HE Nursing (registered nurse)

However, the BSc (hons) is higher than the Dip HE.

Nonetheless, UK Dip HE nurses can hold RN status in Aus, they are not EN's
It is not the equivalent to a degree but it is enough to enable the holder to register as an RN.
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It is not the equivalent to a degree but it is enough to enable the holder to register as an RN.

Bachelor Degree

To receive 15 points for having at least a Bachelor degree, you must have met the requirements for an award of Bachelor degree by an Australian educational institution or your qualification must be considered as at least comparable to a Bachelor level at Australian standards.

For example a Diploma in Nursing completed in the United Kingdom is generally considered by the relevant assessing authority as comparable to an Australian Bachelor degree.



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http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/1...sub-heading-10
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Bachelor Degree

To receive 15 points for having at least a Bachelor degree, you must have met the requirements for an award of Bachelor degree by an Australian educational institution or your qualification must be considered as at least comparable to a Bachelor level at Australian standards.

For example a Diploma in Nursing completed in the United Kingdom is generally considered by the relevant assessing authority as comparable to an Australian Bachelor degree.



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Please don't try and teach your granny how to suck eggs.

I worked in Nurse education in the UK and now do the same here.

A diploma is not equivalent to a degree. It is enough to register as an RN, and in that sense is comparable, but it is not an equivalent.


If you work in higher education you should know that???

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