Bellasmum

Are you sure she wasn't commenting on one of her colleagues research papers ? I am no supporter of Ms Mutu but I think Close Up were up to no goog, yet again.

Anyway isn't that Uni researchers get paid for, doing lots of useless research and making "out there" claims.

What I do find interesting is how every Maori in NZ get the racist label and reaction (yes racists) just because one Maori talks out of her ass.

MartinJapan

Good God, what a horrible bunch of bigoted hicks! <snip>. Enjoy your beautiful haven at the end of the world, or perhaps that should be your backward redneck village out of touch with the rest of the world.

BEVS

Oh dear. Your 2nd post into what is an open debate thread on a current hot topic in NZ & this is the contribution you make.
Perhaps have a read of BE rule numero uno.

Please note I made a wee snip to your post ,just as Sue of Admin made to your 1st post. Thank you.

Perthbum

Better check your history mate.

Charismatic

Said in jest of course .

I could never seriously entertain expressing views that could be seen as racist if a white person expressed them with the reverse slant. We should hold ourselves to a much higher standard that Professor Mutu.

lardyl

Maybe she should get her startched undies in twiddle over this, which seems to be costing NZ around $5m to $15m a year:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10745751

Having to read people for a living I come accross many types from different walks of life and races at their best and their worst. Although I'll probably be called a racist, I reckon Ms Mutu's favourite type of immigrants form the vast majority of those who are pulling this little number on us all........

Justcol

why are we all not just getting along??

What the f**k has any one this got to do with with anything anyway??
Its just one womans opinion and has zero effect on anything I do or
anybody i know, so why the hoohaa ???

Expat Kiwi

In the same way that every immigrant gets the white supremacist label?

She's stretching it too far to say that that every non-Maori person is a guest in New Zealand, especially those who can trace their ancestry back 4 or 5 generations. After so long they have as much right to be there are the next person, as do migrants who apply to and get accepted to become part of New Zealand. Very few are over stayers or illegal immigrants.

It's time to embrace multi-culturalism I think and put aside bi-cultralism in New Zealand, it's far too divisive. Let's all learn to live and love as one.

witty

I'm just wondering what Pakeha translates into?

Bellasmum

Other than on internet forums in my 68 years I have never heard an average Kiwi referred to a white supremist. But then I have never lived in the South Island. As far as I am aware the label is very much a Christchurch one. The vast majority of Kiwi's are more than happy to just be Kiwi's. The more media and online attention, the higher the profile of Professor Mutu will get. I realise that the thread title was made very much tongue in cheek,but in fact it is likely to get a similar response to Margaret Mutu's comments.

NZ citizens are multicultural however it is a bicultural country and the sooner the TOW issues are addressed and resolved the sooner we will all be able to move on.

As Margaret Mutu is Ngapuhi, the last bastion of unresolved treaty issues in NZ, I suspect her agenda relates more to that than her rather shabby comments.

I might add that I am the manager of one of MM's close whanau and their view of her views are shared by most kiwi's.

Browner_

I agree, but its unlikely to happen due to the history.
For goodness sake most NZers are of mixed descent anyway.
But some people tend to like to hang on to the past.

Charismatic

Auckland university responds:

Charismatic

Meanwhile in Auckland:
Actual definition of racism as per Oxford English dictionary :
I’m am though glad she reopened the racist door, I’m not “In a position of power” you see. Thank you Professor Mutu for your insightful suggestion as a legal defense.

In light of recent events:


*Those in positions of power need not apply. Batteries sold separately, always read the label and consult with you GP to see if lynching is right for you.

bourbon-biscuit

I don't agree with everything Prof Mutu said, but she has every right to say it. And thank god we live in a society where she can say it.

Plus, a depressing number of expats I've met are either overtly racist or when the surface is scratched hold pretty depressing views.

bourbon-biscuit

Charismatic, you can't go to the Oxford Dictionary for exact definitions of complex terms! Within the field of social science, psychology etc racism by definition exists where there is a power differential. I'm not defending Prof Mutu, I'm just saying that that is how it is.

Go look up any term more complicated than 'apple' and you'll find the Oxford Dictionary provides a simplistic over view. If you go and read up about it in a dictionary with subject authority you'll get a better handle on it- in our house we have music and medical dictionaries and I would go to both those for an understanding of terms within those fields.