Genesis

Oz, for a shed load of reasons is a far more preferable place to move to than NZ for most brits. Personally I totally get the allure, big, sexy, hot. A bit americanised. The weather, better money, better prospects. I loved my 3 months there back in the early 1990s. However I could not live there cos of the heat, the psyche of the inhabitants of the country and the inordinate time to get from one part of the country to the other! Apparently it not uncommon for folk to travel 400ks, round trip for a night out!! Mental!!!

sr71

I disagree with most of that, money is the big attraction of Australia but more-so for unskilled/tradesmen roles.

NZ has better scenery/outdoors, education, government, freedom, food (supermarkets anyway), more things to do and far less Americanised.

A uneducated Kiwi working for $15 an hour in Hamilton can pack up and go to Melbourne/Perth/Brisbane and get $25ph. They can get a brand new 4 bedroom house and land package, sometimes with no deposit on the city outskirts and also a new car on credit. They aren't too bothered about the hipster lifestyle and quality of schools. This sort of lifestyle is a huge chunk of the kiwis moving over there.

But if you are a IT contractor on $800 a day, medical specialist on $400k pa etc, want to live in a leafy neighborhood and have your kids go to the top schools then the difference is a lot less, if at all. Australia is very expensive in the desirable areas, the same as Auckland. Worse in Sydney.

Dorothy

They can? Would you care to enlighten those of us who actually live in Australia how they're doing these things?

sr71

Ok, not no deposit, but plenty of places offer very low deposit, say $5,000, and house and land from $300k. Also have the rent to buy offers and other creative finance.

The point is that in Auckland these sorts of houses might be minimum $6-700k, in Aus they are a lot cheaper in the new developments.

E.g $2k deposit with Metricon, one of the biggest developers. You can't do that in NZ.

http://www.metricon.com.au/builders/.../home-solution

And as if on cue :

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/personal-f...ectid=11808522

"Australia is a much bigger country and it's always offered attractive job prospects, particularly for blue-collar workers. Wages are higher and workers in many industries experience better conditions."

Dorothy

5k plus the first homeowners grant. Which I believe is only available to permanent residents and citizens. You have to read the fine print.

sr71

Homeowners grant is available to NZ passport holders, they are treated as permanent residents in this case

http://www.sro.vic.gov.au/first-home-owner/apply-first-home-owner-grant-fhog

Dorothy

That's good to know. Thank you.

However my assertion still is that it's not just 5k and brand new home. There's a shed load of stuff thats not included in building. We did it a few years ago

kakapo

Hi,

as a MH professional who moved here from the NHS, I would advise you that I personally have not come across any psychotherapists employed by DHBs (therapy usually provided by psychologists), at least not in my locality, cannot speak for other regions. I would imagine you would be most likely to have to find employment in the private sector and I am unsure what the requirements are in terms of visa, etc. It is also worth mentioning that MH services are very different here and as a result I have not enjoyed my work as much as in the UK. Just my view though

geoff52

I moved from UK to Canada with my family. I had a job waiting for me in Canada, I had relatives and friends in Canada who helped in the settling process.
Canada is a great country, free schools free healthcare, next to the USA.

Great economy and the prices are low because of competition from US.

Eight hour flight to the UK, I take a trip every year to visit friends and relatives in the UK. We have hot summers and cold winters. but energy prices are cheap.

Why would any body want to move to New Zealand with a population of 4 million, that is not a viable economic base. Its Isolated geographically, its based on two islands si that costs of food and transport are high. It has no industrial/manufacturing base, very few natural resources to export. Totally unattractive place to move.

Canada first choice and Australia (been there) second choice.

MrsFychan

yeh they can but despite paying the same taxes as everyone else they will never be able to claim any benefits nor will their children.

MrsFychan

Would of loved to of tried Cananda but MrF hates the cold and needs sunshine. We had to have a sun lamp in the UK during the winter months.

Howefamily

If he hates the cold then no Canada is not for you but there is no lack of sunshine. Its cold and sunny

Woodlea

And yet many do and love it, perhaps you ought to visit NZ before writing us off
Yes Oz would have been my second choice too, Canada didn't even get a look in, too cold, too close to the UK, too close to the States, too expensive in the only good bit (BC). Totally unattractive place to move to, everyone agrees, nobody would want to live there, everyone agrees, totally unattractive and I love the cold, no one loves the cold more than me.

Genesis

Why? Cos being 'near everything' is NOT important to some. The way the world is going its currently a HUGE boon to be so isolated!! The fact that is is unpopulous is the MAIN reason I am here! I do not think my food costs are high, I live on a VERY modest income and have TWO cars and a motorbike. NZ is not as expensive as some make out..if you are shrewd with what you have. I have learned to become shrewd.

I have a wonderful quality of life. The weather is reasonable, never any real extremes, well not in the north anyway.

What you said is a bit like saying "Why would you wanna move to Canada?" Its a dumb thing to say. Not everyone likes NZ but some do. I would not live anywhere else. Living next door to one Mr Trump? Now that IS unattractive. As are your extremes of weather and the ridiculous amount of travelling you have to do to get to east from west, but I am sure you love Canada in spite of all that!! I am sure you are very happy there as are many other millions...get my point??

sr71

There's not really much difference between Australia & NZ when it comes to geographic location, both isolated. Very similar cultures and lifestyles, NZ is a lot more British. It has better education, better internet, better business environment, better social progressiveness and is one of the most beautiful countries around. Plenty of reasons to like the place. Along with the free healthcare and welfare available.

Personally I don't get Canada, would be one of the last places I'd move to, the USA would be even better.