Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12390895)
Never been to Kiwiland, but this (good and bad) seems most consistent with my perceptions.
My question is: unless you are being work transferred or infatuated with sheep, why would any Brit choose the more backward more remote NZ over Australia? Then there is the cultural side, NZ is more 'British', Australia is more American influenced and also has a large Catholic/conservative influence. Other areas where NZ beats Australia are outdoor lifestyle, supermarket food, scenery, access to things to do, wildlife (forget about snakes and spiders - the flies are the worst thing about Australia) Where Australia has the advantage is the larger population and the advantages that come with that. More job opportunities, better salaries, busier cities, cheap flights to Asia etc. Also a bit more European influenced too with some good markets and Italian/Greek food that doesn't really exist in NZ. If you are young and into bars and clubs, then Australia is the better choice, otherwise I don't think it's a clear decision. If you are young and ambitious then you really should be in Asia/USA/Europe But let's be clear, both Australia and NZ are remote and largely uncultured, apart from a few central urban areas. Both are 24 hours back to the UK. If you want remote and backwards try Perth. |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by sr71
(Post 12391422)
Where Australia has the advantage is the larger population and the advantages that come with that. More job opportunities, better salaries, busier cities, cheap flights to Asia etc. Also a bit more European influenced too with some good markets and Italian/Greek food that doesn't really exist in NZ.
If you are young and into bars and clubs, then Australia is the better choice, otherwise I don't think it's a clear decision. If you are young and ambitious then you really should be in Asia/USA/Europe But let's be clear, both Australia and NZ are remote and largely uncultured, apart from a few central urban areas. Both are 24 hours back to the UK. If you want remote and backwards try Perth. I think the people moving to New Zealand won't see the larger population and busier cities in Australia as an advantage. More people and more jobs also often means more competition, so it's not always that easy. Better salaries for highly skilled people but most people end up paying more for housing too and I doubt the office admin person in Sydney can afford a house with garden. The shop assistant in Dunedin probably still can, so it really depends on the individual, the exact location and what they want in life. Even in Europe it's not always for the young and ambitious. There are plenty of poor countries with high unemployment too and it can be very backwards, depending on the country and what you feel is backwards. But Europe of course has a lot to offer. |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Shard, I think its easy to get the impression that NZ is backward after reading this forum. Maybe you should come and check it out yourself or maybe also consider the Legatum prosperity index in your readings which currently ranks NZ at number 2 after Norway.
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Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by garethwm
(Post 12391718)
Shard, I think its easy to get the impression that NZ is backward after reading this forum. Maybe you should come and check it out yourself or maybe also consider the Legatum prosperity index in your readings which currently ranks NZ at number 2 after Norway.
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Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by garethwm
(Post 12391718)
Shard, I think its easy to get the impression that NZ is backward after reading this forum. Maybe you should come and check it out yourself or maybe also consider the Legatum prosperity index in your readings which currently ranks NZ at number 2 after Norway.
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Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12391733)
I saw a recent YouTube advertising for the NZ police (can't remember which city) but all the buildings and houses looked very dated to me.
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Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by Pom_Chch
(Post 12391965)
So, "some dated houses" constitutes a whole country being backwards. Seems like a sound basis for your argument Shard :sarcasm:
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Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12391977)
It's not the basis, just consistent with things I've read and many of the comments on here.
Houses in Australia and NZ are very similar, mostly wooden houses, both completely different from the UK. Have a look on Google Street view or some real estate sites to get a better idea |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12391977)
I certainly like the scenery, very nice, almost as good as Scotland.
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Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Where's the advert. Lets have a look.
I'm not sure 'dated' is the right word for New Zealand. It's not Albania after all. However yes, there is a certain way here that holds it back more than it should or is needed I feel. |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by sr71
(Post 12391996)
I don't think this site gives a good picture really
A number of people posting on here who dream of "a better life", then found that NZ is just another place to live. A change to "a better life" doesn't usually come from your location, but from something inside. And therefore NZ is not what they were looking for. |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by bearskin
(Post 12392008)
Probably about right.
A number of people posting on here who dream of "a better life", then found that NZ is just another place to live. A change to "a better life" doesn't usually come from your location, but from something inside. And therefore NZ is not what they were looking for. I suppose if one is looking to 'upgrade' in some way to a perceived 'better' life but without the wherewithal to do so, then immigration to <name the country> could well be a disappointment & also even a struggle. The same poop / different bucket thing. Might have been possible a decade or more ago when NZ was a cheap place to live and the $ v GBP was favourable for those in the UK. I cannot comment on the UK worst things as I haven't been back since 2009. It seemed very much the same place as 2003 when I left. There again we didn't leave because we were discontent with the country. We left because we could . The horizon beckoned. Incidentally Gra popped up a week or so ago. He's fine and happy in his NZ life which is fab as he worked long and very hard to get here. |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by BEVS
(Post 12392007)
Where's the advert. Lets have a look.
I'm not sure 'dated' is the right word for New Zealand. It's not Albania after all. However yes, there is a certain way here that holds it back more than it should or is needed I feel. |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Looks like a lot of townships & properties here. TBH I've never thought of them as 'dated' although against a slick highrise city it may seem that way. I see them as quite American small town style, although I have no experience of that. For instance , the township nearest to me looks like this. Attachment 129063 The advert doesn't show all the assorted types of housing stock but it does show a variety of old and new which is very much New Zealand. New sub-divisions of course have a more contemporary look. Attachment 129064 |
Re: Worst and Best things about moving back to Uk from NZ
Originally Posted by BEVS
(Post 12392034)
That's quite amusing . Made me smile.
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