Work wear
#1
Work wear
What is your take on wearing religious garments in the workplace?
I'm actually quite relieved that the European Court of Justice has ruled that "visible wearing of any political, philosophical or religious sign" is out but also dissapointed this had to get as far as an ECJ ruling. Why would anyone be surprised that, when working in a secular country or in a public space or event, one needs to dress neutral and/or to local custom?
You wouldn't stroll down the street with a vest on and a 6 pack of lager in hand when visiting sunny Saudi Arabia any more than you would wear an abaya or hijab grabbing coffee in Wellington. It just wouldn't be culturally appropriate, do we need go as far as specifying legality as well?
I'm actually quite relieved that the European Court of Justice has ruled that "visible wearing of any political, philosophical or religious sign" is out but also dissapointed this had to get as far as an ECJ ruling. Why would anyone be surprised that, when working in a secular country or in a public space or event, one needs to dress neutral and/or to local custom?
You wouldn't stroll down the street with a vest on and a 6 pack of lager in hand when visiting sunny Saudi Arabia any more than you would wear an abaya or hijab grabbing coffee in Wellington. It just wouldn't be culturally appropriate, do we need go as far as specifying legality as well?
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Re: Work wear
Do we still see Roman Catholic Nuns in uniform?
Can't say I've seen any for a while.
Can't say I've seen any for a while.
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Re: Work wear
any more than you would wear an abaya or hijab grabbing coffee in Wellington. It just wouldn't be culturally appropriate
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Re: Work wear
I always find it interesting to ask people who object to Muslim head coverings whether they also object to nuns with heads covered. It's basically the same reason - a belief that is how their god wants them to dress.
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Re: Work wear
Wear what you like for me ... don't have a problem with any religeous dress.
However, in places like banks and courtrooms etc where they insist I remove my motorcycle helmet or my sunglasses etc, I don't think the niqab(veil) should be allowed.
However, in places like banks and courtrooms etc where they insist I remove my motorcycle helmet or my sunglasses etc, I don't think the niqab(veil) should be allowed.
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Re: Work wear
Would this be classed as a "philosophical" sign?
When you start banning things like religous dress or crucifixes, etc, etc you're starting on a very dangerous road.
When you start banning things like religous dress or crucifixes, etc, etc you're starting on a very dangerous road.
Last edited by Robbie2010; Mar 18th 2017 at 10:37 pm.
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Re: Work wear
"A commuter couldn't help but smile yesterday afternoon as he noticed seven nuns waiting for a train - at Seven Sisters tube station."
Seven nuns spotted at Seven Sisters tube station | Daily Mail Online
Seven nuns spotted at Seven Sisters tube station | Daily Mail Online
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Re: Work wear
Would this be classed as a "philosophical" sign?
When you start banning things like religous dress or crucifixes, etc, etc you're starting on a very dangerous road.
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When you start banning things like religous dress or crucifixes, etc, etc you're starting on a very dangerous road.
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The "anything goes" view seems a paradoxical position to me. Ostensibly it appears to be an equitable position however when you consider the implications, more often, it's really a position of endorsing discrimination under the guise of cultural acceptability. If you genuinely advocated a progressive, egalitarian view you have to accept that culture is a major driver of sexism and take an actual a position. However I appreciate this isn't yet the prevailing view within our society.
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Re: Work wear
So wearing a bikini or outfits i see out on a Saturday night where one can see pretty much everything is ok but wearing clothing that is worn to cover up is seen as wrong or even weird. I understand you just mean workwear but given the amount of ridicule people who wear religious clothing get it's got out of hand. People who allow themselves to get caught up in this argument need to really look at why they are doing it in the first place, it's usually down to bitterness that sometimes can be invoked when we become vulnerable as society. Also enforcing this would be difficult as those wearing the hijab could say they are not wearing it for religious reasons but simply for the same reason one may wear a miniskirt, simply because they want to as they like it
Last edited by paddy234; Mar 24th 2017 at 7:11 am.
#10
Re: Work wear
Am I missing something. Is this not about what to wear to work?
I thought Work Wear currently was all dayglo.
The NZers were also using this workwear in their everyday lives.
Dayglo is the new to be seen in.
I thought Work Wear currently was all dayglo.
The NZers were also using this workwear in their everyday lives.
Dayglo is the new to be seen in.
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Re: Work wear
MrBEVS is told he must wear the new 'in' dayglo to work , teamed with steel capped , bovver boots.
Useful for some as this seems to double up as cycling & gym wear for some.
Useful for some as this seems to double up as cycling & gym wear for some.
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