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Steven999 Nov 18th 2019 10:44 am

Woodworking machines
 
Hello,

I have a few woodworking machines to potentially move from UK to New Zealand. A Makita site saw, Makita chop saw, Scheppach Planer Thicknesser.

Does any one here have knowledge of theses machine (or machines similar) being moved and used in New Zealand? Will they work, do they need anything done to them when I get there?.. etc..

thanks in advance.

Robbie2010 Nov 18th 2019 12:45 pm

Re: Woodworking machines
 
Voltage in NZ is 230 same as UK so they will work fine!

Steven999 Nov 18th 2019 12:55 pm

Re: Woodworking machines
 
Great Robbie thanks, but what about this New Zealand 10amp and the UK 13amp difference?

Robbie2010 Nov 18th 2019 2:16 pm

Re: Woodworking machines
 
What about it? Are your tools more than 2400 watts?

Steven999 Nov 18th 2019 2:57 pm

Re: Woodworking machines
 
My Scheppach Planer Thicknesser motor power is 2.5kW (3.4hp). That means it's more than 2400watts?

The "2.5kW" means 2500watts, or is it something different?

Steven999 Nov 18th 2019 3:45 pm

Re: Woodworking machines
 
Correction. 2.4kw on start up

Is there anything that can be done when appliances are close to 2.4kw?

LittleGreyCat Nov 21st 2019 6:21 am

Re: Woodworking machines
 

Originally Posted by Steven999 (Post 12765470)
Correction. 2.4kw on start up

Is there anything that can be done when appliances are close to 2.4kw?

In the UK you can run appliances which are greater than the capacity of a 13 amp ring main, such as electric showers and electric cookers. You just need thicker wire and a bigger capacity circuit breaker.
I assume the same applies in most countries including NZ.

escapedtonz Nov 21st 2019 7:06 am

Re: Woodworking machines
 

Originally Posted by Steven999 (Post 12765470)
Correction. 2.4kw on start up

Is there anything that can be done when appliances are close to 2.4kw?

Don't understand the question ?
A residential user has an obligation to not connect any appliance that will draw more than 10A and more than 2400W / 2.4KW power rating to a domestic circuit. Along with the different circuit amp ratings here in NZ over those in the UK (10A as opposed to 13A) there are also different rules with circuits.....no ring mains here. Everything is radial. Pretty much the maximum number of double sockets you can have per domestic 10A circuit is 3.
You can use appliances that are higher than 10A / 2.4kw but they must be on a dedicated circuit 15A / 20A etc. Pretty standard to have a few dedicated higher rated circuits especially for the hot tub, pool, immersion heater etc :p
Bear in mind a standard residential house will be single phase fed and the max rating on the service is 60A.
If you have a rural semi-rural / rural property you'll get three phase but again you'll be limited on max current draw to 60A (which should be shared equally across the three phases). Reason for having three phase is to combat volt drop as the service length probably minimum 50-100 Metres from the main supply cable or OHL. We are on a semi-rural lifestyle block of just over an acre. We have 3 phase and our service cable probably runs 60-65 Metres.

Steven999 Nov 21st 2019 5:10 pm

Re: Woodworking machines
 

Originally Posted by escapedtonz (Post 12767011)
Don't understand the question ?
A residential user has an obligation to not connect any appliance that will draw more than 10A and more than 2400W / 2.4KW power rating to a domestic circuit. Along with the different circuit amp ratings here in NZ over those in the UK (10A as opposed to 13A) there are also different rules with circuits.....no ring mains here. Everything is radial. Pretty much the maximum number of double sockets you can have per domestic 10A circuit is 3.
You can use appliances that are higher than 10A / 2.4kw but they must be on a dedicated circuit 15A / 20A etc. Pretty standard to have a few dedicated higher rated circuits especially for the hot tub, pool, immersion heater etc :p
Bear in mind a standard residential house will be single phase fed and the max rating on the service is 60A.
If you have a rural semi-rural / rural property you'll get three phase but again you'll be limited on max current draw to 60A (which should be shared equally across the three phases). Reason for having three phase is to combat volt drop as the service length probably minimum 50-100 Metres from the main supply cable or OHL. We are on a semi-rural lifestyle block of just over an acre. We have 3 phase and our service cable probably runs 60-65 Metres.

No worries, I was asking maybe there's a "converter box contraption" that you buy to help with the extra power.

So from what I've read from your post is that, I should be able to get a Electrician to do his magic and that's what "You can use appliances that are higher than 10A / 2.4kw but they must be on a dedicated circuit 15A / 20A etc. Pretty standard to have a few dedicated higher rated circuits" means?

If so, does anyone have a ball park figure for the cost of installation of such a "dedicated higher rated circuit" in New Zealand?


Robbie2010 Nov 21st 2019 6:23 pm

Re: Woodworking machines
 
You've said your planer is 2.4Kw .. IT WILL BE OK!

escapedtonz Nov 22nd 2019 4:50 am

Re: Woodworking machines
 

Originally Posted by Steven999 (Post 12767299)
No worries, I was asking maybe there's a "converter box contraption" that you buy to help with the extra power.

So from what I've read from your post is that, I should be able to get a Electrician to do his magic and that's what "You can use appliances that are higher than 10A / 2.4kw but they must be on a dedicated circuit 15A / 20A etc. Pretty standard to have a few dedicated higher rated circuits" means?

If so, does anyone have a ball park figure for the cost of installation of such a "dedicated higher rated circuit" in New Zealand?

Pretty much yeah you'll have to get a registered electrician to do the work as you'll need Code of Compliance (CoC) certificate.
Cost is very subjective, dependent on the condition of electrical equipment already there.
If the current equipment is pretty new and all meets current electrical regulations so there's nothing more to do than wire in a new dedicated circuit with socket, test and give CoC I'd expect $500 + GST minimum inc cost of materials. I've just had a quote for fitting of a new UHF ariel on the roof plus wiring to two TV's and tuning the TV's so they receive NZ Freeview and quote is $300 + GST. Cost of an ariel is around $100 from a shop and coax cable not that expensive so $200 in labour pretty much.


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