White Island eruption ( renamed)
Dec 10th 2019, 11:40 pm
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Dec 11th 2019, 12:36 am
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I had hoped it would have been quick...but sadly it was not.
If the people who are critical and unable to talk or be identified had family with them, they'd probably ask for an end to their suffering now.
Dec 11th 2019, 2:24 am
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I think so too. It sounds awful to say it but I think those who died (probably instantly) as the volcano erupted are the 'lucky' ones. I wouldn't want to be kept alive with such horrific burns as these sound to be for these poor people.
Dec 11th 2019, 4:40 am
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TVNZ Mr Quinn
Mr Quinn said the company have practices in place to decide when it's unsafe to travel to the volcano and yesterday was no different."In the normal course of events, we'd actually make that call [not to travel] the night before, and that principally and invariably is around the weather," Mr Quinn said."But the overlay, of course, of that is on the volcanic activity on the island and we take our steer from GNS on that.
"They send us reports as to what the activity levels are and if in fact it is deemed safe - which is a level two which it was yesterday - the next step is the weather and then we make our choices from there."Mr Quinn reiterated while level two was not the lowest level of volcanic activity, it is still considered a safe degree to operate and visit White Island under."It's been level two for about a week, as I understand it," he said.
"They send us reports as to what the activity levels are and if in fact it is deemed safe - which is a level two which it was yesterday - the next step is the weather and then we make our choices from there."Mr Quinn reiterated while level two was not the lowest level of volcanic activity, it is still considered a safe degree to operate and visit White Island under."It's been level two for about a week, as I understand it," he said.
Dec 11th 2019, 4:42 am
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I know what severe burns look and smell like. What happens. It is not good and something that one never forgets, ever.
I will hope for recovery but I will also hope for peaceful passing too.
Dec 11th 2019, 4:48 am
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This is very difficult to even think about isn't it and all my heart goes out to those severely injured and their family and friends.
I know what severe burns look and smell like. What happens. It is not good and something that one never forgets, ever.
I will hope for recovery but I will also hope for peaceful passing too.
I know what severe burns look and smell like. What happens. It is not good and something that one never forgets, ever.
I will hope for recovery but I will also hope for peaceful passing too.
Dec 11th 2019, 6:16 am
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I am personally astonished that there are not more disasters.
Dec 11th 2019, 10:30 am
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The real danger is complacency with danger that cannot be mitigated, I'm not saying don't go and enjoy skiing at Ruapehu but understand that major major eruptions are about a 50 year event. There is a tiny risk you'll be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The White Island volcano has killed before and it'll likely do so again, it just may take a century for people to become complacent about its dangers.
Dec 11th 2019, 12:44 pm
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This is very difficult to even think about isn't it and all my heart goes out to those severely injured and their family and friends.
I know what severe burns look and smell like. What happens. It is not good and something that one never forgets, ever.
I will hope for recovery but I will also hope for peaceful passing too.
I know what severe burns look and smell like. What happens. It is not good and something that one never forgets, ever.
I will hope for recovery but I will also hope for peaceful passing too.
Dec 12th 2019, 6:28 pm
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My opinion on recovery today is that it is foolhardy and a knee jerk reaction to media hype
.if I or my family members are ever caught up in a situation where our bodies could not be recovered without possible risk to others than leave them there until it is truly safe to recover.
I hope that all goes well today but the true cost of this recovery may not be seen for many many years to come to those attending.
.if I or my family members are ever caught up in a situation where our bodies could not be recovered without possible risk to others than leave them there until it is truly safe to recover.
I hope that all goes well today but the true cost of this recovery may not be seen for many many years to come to those attending.
Dec 12th 2019, 6:32 pm
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A pity they didn’t allow the helicopter guys to go in at the start...the bureaucracy is irritating...
Dec 12th 2019, 7:36 pm
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There are thoughts of Pike River & also of the condition of the bodies/remains.
Police have stated there is a trade off to the quick recovery method in that not all will be recovered in the quick turn round time frame and so official ID could well take longer or not be possible.
I sort of concur that if a pilot/ family member was/is willing to risk his life, it was his to risk but if that happened then all eyes turn to the authorities. The responders are damned no matter what they do.
Dec 12th 2019, 8:16 pm
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So it was ok to allow tourists onto the island but not rescuer's, even though the actual level of risk hasn't changed. There was increased activity before the eruption which raised the danger level, but it was ignored. The situation is comical, shambolic and typically kiwi.