Where has English Grammar gone?
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Where has English Grammar gone?
It used to just be kids spelling things in text speak but sadly now I find myself doing it and reading through most threads here we are all at it.
I am going to make a stance and not do text speak on any future posts and I urge everyone on here to do the same.
I find it funny that Americans spell some words as they sound and even snear at them for it i.e. color and putting a z in lieu of an s in words like organisation etc.
How lazy have we all become, I sit at night and do my sons/daughters spelling and make them spell every word they get wrong twice may 3 times, but my daughter especially will go straight after and text her friend and do all this text speak, what are we getting ready to be the captains of our industry and to run our world??
I am going to make a stance and not do text speak on any future posts and I urge everyone on here to do the same.
I find it funny that Americans spell some words as they sound and even snear at them for it i.e. color and putting a z in lieu of an s in words like organisation etc.
How lazy have we all become, I sit at night and do my sons/daughters spelling and make them spell every word they get wrong twice may 3 times, but my daughter especially will go straight after and text her friend and do all this text speak, what are we getting ready to be the captains of our industry and to run our world??
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
it can be spelt either way correctly.
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
I can handle text speak (i just typed txt then corrected myself ) in the right context ie when texting as it uses less characters etc, what gets me is when people attempt to spell stuff right but can't (not just spelling mistakes but no idea of different meanings of words that sound the same) ie - instead of "I know" they put "I no" jeez !!, or using "there" when it should be "their" or "they're" or "your" in the context of "I hope your well" ggrrr, or "thats really grate" - the standard of spelling generally is shoddy - using facebook for communication really brings it home - anyhow moan over lol
Last edited by bga; May 24th 2010 at 4:22 am. Reason: spelling mistake :-)
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
The Oxford dictionary you looked at was it an American version via Google per chance?
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
I can handle text speak (i just typed txt then corrected myself ) in the right context ie when texting as it uses less characters etc, what gets me is when people attempt to spell stuff right but can't (not just spelling mistakes but no idea of different meanings of words that sound the same) ie - instead of "I know" they put "I no" jeez !!, or using "there" when it should be "their" or "they're" or "your" in the context of "I hope your well" ggrrr, or "thats really grate" - the standard of spelling generally is shoddy - using facebook for communication really brings it home - anyhow moan over lol
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
Also realize. recognize, etc etc. all the correct English spellings.
Last edited by Robbie2010; May 24th 2010 at 5:00 am.
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
hmm, I'm with the "s" camp on this one, its probably acceptable to spell with both though.. some examples..
it says "organisation" here - http://www.oecd.org/home/0,2987,en_2..._1_1_1,00.html
its says "recognise" here -
http://recognise.noigroup.com/recognise/
and its "realise" here -
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/realise
it says "organisation" here - http://www.oecd.org/home/0,2987,en_2..._1_1_1,00.html
its says "recognise" here -
http://recognise.noigroup.com/recognise/
and its "realise" here -
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/realise
Last edited by bga; May 24th 2010 at 5:30 am. Reason: another spelling mistake, how embarrasing - just realized it - lol
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
Not the best source but it does inform quite well on this occasion ...
http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&sou...a3UC0BK5t1nrJw
Also, if you get the chance try watching The Adventure of English presented by Melvyn Bragg, it gives a fascinating insight into how English has and still is evolving.
You will then realize that however much you/we may dislike it the English language never stands still.
http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&sou...a3UC0BK5t1nrJw
Also, if you get the chance try watching The Adventure of English presented by Melvyn Bragg, it gives a fascinating insight into how English has and still is evolving.
You will then realize that however much you/we may dislike it the English language never stands still.
Last edited by Robbie2010; May 24th 2010 at 5:39 am.
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
"American spelling accepts only -ize endings in most cases, such as organize, realize, and recognize.[53] British usage accepts both -ize and -ise "
looks like everyones right then eh
English is evolving and always has done, no arguments there, try reading Shakespeare to realise how its changed over the last 400 years or so - or even the original version of something like Dracula to realize the differences over the last 150 years or so (see what i did there with the spellings, did ya )
looks like everyones right then eh
English is evolving and always has done, no arguments there, try reading Shakespeare to realise how its changed over the last 400 years or so - or even the original version of something like Dracula to realize the differences over the last 150 years or so (see what i did there with the spellings, did ya )
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
My pet hate is when people say, "I should of" instead of, "I should have". It drives me mad!!!!:curse:
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
Why do Kiwi's say ...
"Is this your one or my one?"
and not
"Is this yours or mine?"
"Is this your one or my one?"
and not
"Is this yours or mine?"
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
Not quite. ... theduke thought that spelling with a z was American, whereas, it is in fact English!
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Re: Where has English Grammar gone?
Spelling things wrong is a pet hate of mine too not that I think I can spell everything and I have difficulty putting 'where and were' in the right context!
I was going through my Son's girlfriends list of items that she has packed and there was an item stated as 'ailments'. I emailed her back and asked what this was as if it was medicine then I dont think it should be shipped.
She got back to me saying it was meant to be 'auniments'!
It then hit me that she meant ornaments!
I didnt know whether to laugh or cry!
I was going through my Son's girlfriends list of items that she has packed and there was an item stated as 'ailments'. I emailed her back and asked what this was as if it was medicine then I dont think it should be shipped.
She got back to me saying it was meant to be 'auniments'!
It then hit me that she meant ornaments!
I didnt know whether to laugh or cry!