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What is a "Pensioner" in NZ?

Old Jul 16th 2016, 2:35 pm
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Default What is a "Pensioner" in NZ?

In the UK a pensioner is someone drawing a State and/or private pension.

As far as I can tell in Oz a Pensioner is anyone of any age receiving a state benefit; so income support, dole, whatever.

In both Oz and NZ as far as I know money for retirement is Super(annuation).

So is a Pensioner in NZ the UK definition or the Oz definition?
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Old Jul 16th 2016, 8:30 pm
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Terminology Senior citizen or gold card holder... In the UK a lot of private pensions were available to be drawn at the age of 50 onwards, so the people drawing the private pensions could still work. The UK compulsory retirement age was withdrawn so now a lot of UK workers postpone their state pensions and keep on working beyond age 65 helping their state pensions grow to a more livable amount. So make what you will of a very loose term. Most of the Kiwi's I hang around with when asked what job they do will simply say retired if no longer working.

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Old Jul 16th 2016, 9:52 pm
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I think it's just a case of terminology. Few Kiwi's would use the term 'pensioner' and would not talk about getting the pension, but getting 'super'. Technically a pensioner gets a pension, for whatever reason. I think most people NZ would consider it a British term and they are sometimes confused as to whether it refers to private or state pension.
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I can't say I ever heard the word pensioner to describe an individual person or used in any of the meanings you give; people who receives a state benefit / income support are said so be "on the Benny" or " or on the DPB' (Domestic Purposes Benefit) or collectively known as 'beneficiaries'.

OAPs are mostly referred to as superannuitants or retirees; or more usually labelled in a more resentful way by young folks and the media in the perjorative as 'boomers' (baby boomers). Boomers are largely seen as a drain on society; having the temerity to draw a pension whilst living it large and being the wealthiest folks in the country because they had everything handed to them on a plate; bought up all the cheap property and had free university education.
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Funny that, in today's Herald we have yet another such article: "Why Baby Boomers Suck" by Heather du Plessis-Allan

Heather du Plessis-Allan: Why baby boomers suck

An 'interesting' point of view from Ms. du Plessis-Allan, considering she's married to Barry Soper, a guy more than thirty years her senior.
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Funny that, in today's Herald we have yet another such article: "Why Baby Boomers Suck" by Heather du Plessis-Allan

Heather du Plessis-Allan: Why baby boomers suck

An 'interesting' point of view from Ms. du Plessis-Allan, considering she's married to Barry Soper, a guy more than thirty years her senior.
I blame the parents of the baby boomers. How dare they have had so much sex that they created the problems we now have

I have a friend who has just recently turned 81. She continues to work two days per week. She's planning to retire at the end of this year and thinks she will have just about saved enough to be able to afford to retire!!!!
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The Baby Boomer bashing is no different to what occurred 25 years ago when my sister would harp on about " there won't be any left for us when we retire

This is all BS, governments are NOT restricted by any shortage of money (they issue the bloody stuff after all) only a shortage of resources in the economy.

In that vein, have you noticed any unemployed people, or people on zero-hour contracts, or working part time and wanting full-time employment?
This equates to approx 15% of the work force who are underemployed!

Reality check please.....
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Just a foot note - the question came up when buying an Opal card in Sydney.

There was a card for "Pensioners" but another one for "Gold Card Holders".

Neither applied to tourists like ourselves, but further enquiries established that a "Pensioner" wasn't equivalent to the UK term.

We were honest and bought normal cards, which was just as well as the Transport Authority runs spot checks (with fines) on a regular basis.
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Default Re: What is a "Pensioner" in NZ?

Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat
Just a foot note - the question came up when buying an Opal card in Sydney.

There was a card for "Pensioners" but another one for "Gold Card Holders".

Neither applied to tourists like ourselves, but further enquiries established that a "Pensioner" wasn't equivalent to the UK term.

We were honest and bought normal cards, which was just as well as the Transport Authority runs spot checks (with fines) on a regular basis.
In Australia, if you earn over a certain amount you don't get the state pension, so that would explain the difference. You may be old enough to qualify for a gold card but earn too much to get the pension.
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Default Re: What is a "Pensioner" in NZ?

Here in Oz: Pension = any type of benefit, whilst Senior implies OAP. I work in a museum in Melbourne and it confused me at first cos there were young people claiming to be on a pension
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