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Old Mar 4th 2006, 2:53 pm
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I have lived in OZ for a number of years (many of them in Perth) and am feeling like I need to get out of the place. I finish a social sciences degree this year and have a diploma in Mental Health Work. Part of me would love to return to NZ (friends and family) but I cannot get the 'clean slate' thing as I once had a custodial sentence imposed on me(1991).

I am considering doing a grad dip in counselling or teaching but still don't know if I will be penalised and find it hard to get work in NZ. I can get work in these areas in OZ or UK.

Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
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Originally Posted by kiwichild
I have lived in OZ for a number of years (many of them in Perth) and am feeling like I need to get out of the place. I finish a social sciences degree this year and have a diploma in Mental Health Work. Part of me would love to return to NZ (friends and family) but I cannot get the 'clean slate' thing as I once had a custodial sentence imposed on me(1991).

I am considering doing a grad dip in counselling or teaching but still don't know if I will be penalised and find it hard to get work in NZ. I can get work in these areas in OZ or UK.

Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
Hmmm - don't know the rules on custodial sentences 15 years on. I suspect they are of minimal importance. I guess it depends what it's for.

I guess the worst that can happen is immegration say no. Worth a try though. Lovely here
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Hmmm - don't know the rules on custodial sentences 15 years on. I suspect they are of minimal importance. I guess it depends what it's for.

I guess the worst that can happen is immegration say no. Worth a try though. Lovely here
Gather as we let Brits in you cant be any worse. Plus everyone deserves a second chance in life. Put in your shoes I would hope someone would do the same for me. Plus what you seem to be doing with your life deserves a slap on the back.

Good luck to ya

Ps next time dont get caught.
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Originally Posted by kiwichild
I have lived in OZ for a number of years (many of them in Perth) and am feeling like I need to get out of the place. I finish a social sciences degree this year and have a diploma in Mental Health Work. Part of me would love to return to NZ (friends and family) but I cannot get the 'clean slate' thing as I once had a custodial sentence imposed on me(1991).

I am considering doing a grad dip in counselling or teaching but still don't know if I will be penalised and find it hard to get work in NZ. I can get work in these areas in OZ or UK.

Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
I did a pretty stupid thing in my late teens and had a criminal record for it, however it didn't affect my application (it had to go in front of a board at immigration but that's standard). I did have to explain what I did and the circumstances surrounding it. I shouldn't think you have anything to worry about with it being so long ago. Hope this helps.
Oh yes, I also work in mental health (nursing) :scared:
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Originally Posted by kiwichild
I have lived in OZ for a number of years (many of them in Perth) and am feeling like I need to get out of the place. I finish a social sciences degree this year and have a diploma in Mental Health Work. Part of me would love to return to NZ (friends and family) but I cannot get the 'clean slate' thing as I once had a custodial sentence imposed on me(1991).

I am considering doing a grad dip in counselling or teaching but still don't know if I will be penalised and find it hard to get work in NZ. I can get work in these areas in OZ or UK.

Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
isnt there some rehabilitation act or another whereby a criminal record gets "spent" after a length of time?
 
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Thanks to you all who have responded. The issue isn't one of immigration. I have citizenship of 3 nations; NZ (by birth) OZ (by naturalisation) and UK (by descent).

The thing is I have worked with some of the most vulnerable people in society here in OZ, those with mental illness and those with intellectual disabilities.

The issue I face really is whether once I have finished my studies, will I be able to practice in NZ as I cannot get my convictions there 'spent'. I guess at the end of the day it's take a chance. If I have problems getting employment in NZ then it will have to be back to OZ or on to the UK. I can't afford to spend my life (who can?) qualified and unable to work in the field. That would be hugely depressing and frustrating.

I did try contacting some relevant bodies, such as the teachers council of NZ, but the response I got seemed a bit vague. Seems they want to reserve the right to put you under the griller, in person before commenting!!!

Anyway, once again, thanks for your thoughts.
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Originally Posted by thebears
Gather as we let Brits in you cant be any worse. Plus everyone deserves a second chance in life. Put in your shoes I would hope someone would do the same for me. Plus what you seem to be doing with your life deserves a slap on the back.

Good luck to ya

Ps next time dont get caught.
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Originally Posted by kiwichild
Thanks to you all who have responded. The issue isn't one of immigration. I have citizenship of 3 nations; NZ (by birth) OZ (by naturalisation) and UK (by descent).

The thing is I have worked with some of the most vulnerable people in society here in OZ, those with mental illness and those with intellectual disabilities.

The issue I face really is whether once I have finished my studies, will I be able to practice in NZ as I cannot get my convictions there 'spent'. I guess at the end of the day it's take a chance. If I have problems getting employment in NZ then it will have to be back to OZ or on to the UK. I can't afford to spend my life (who can?) qualified and unable to work in the field. That would be hugely depressing and frustrating.

I did try contacting some relevant bodies, such as the teachers council of NZ, but the response I got seemed a bit vague. Seems they want to reserve the right to put you under the griller, in person before commenting!!!

Anyway, once again, thanks for your thoughts.
You still shouldn't have any problems. I also work with ID and MH and had to register as a nurse in NZ. Convictions are not spent in this profession as you already know, but they can see who has genuinely made mistakes and those that are a true danger to vulnerable people. Good luck, though I'm sure you don't need it.
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Originally Posted by kiwichild
I have lived in OZ for a number of years (many of them in Perth) and am feeling like I need to get out of the place. I finish a social sciences degree this year and have a diploma in Mental Health Work. Part of me would love to return to NZ (friends and family) but I cannot get the 'clean slate' thing as I once had a custodial sentence imposed on me(1991).

I am considering doing a grad dip in counselling or teaching but still don't know if I will be penalised and find it hard to get work in NZ. I can get work in these areas in OZ or UK.

Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
Best of luck to you kiwichild. As someone else said we all do stupid things when younger. I really hope you make it back to NZ and things work out for you.
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Best of luck to you kiwichild. As someone else said we all do stupid things when younger. I really hope you make it back to NZ and things work out for you.
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You still shouldn't have any problems. I also work with ID and MH and had to register as a nurse in NZ. Convictions are not spent in this profession as you already know, but they can see who has genuinely made mistakes and those that are a true danger to vulnerable people. Good luck, though I'm sure you don't need it.
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Best of luck to you kiwichild. As someone else said we all do stupid things when younger. I really hope you make it back to NZ and things work out for you.
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speak for yourself kaz - im still doing them
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