What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
UK positives:
Clotted cream (oh I wish this hadn't been mentioned!!), variety of overseas destinations closer to home, footie, shopping choice, NHS dentists, higher wage expectation, friends, family.
NZ positives:
Fresh foods, sausages, cafe culture, less air pollution, more outdoor leisure opportunities, more opportunities for children, better public transport (yep I didn't live in one of the main cities), education system, health care although not free, roads in terms of upkeep although not as many motorways etc.
Clotted cream (oh I wish this hadn't been mentioned!!), variety of overseas destinations closer to home, footie, shopping choice, NHS dentists, higher wage expectation, friends, family.
NZ positives:
Fresh foods, sausages, cafe culture, less air pollution, more outdoor leisure opportunities, more opportunities for children, better public transport (yep I didn't live in one of the main cities), education system, health care although not free, roads in terms of upkeep although not as many motorways etc.
#18
Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
the roads (such smooth well maintianed surfaces and hardly ever seen a pot hole...great for us cyclsits)
the tasty cheap fresh fruit/veg
the weather... never in UK winter have i gone out without socks/coats etc..
the gazillions of beaches and scenery
the tasty cheap fresh fruit/veg
the weather... never in UK winter have i gone out without socks/coats etc..
the gazillions of beaches and scenery
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
Easy;
England: negative - Expectations of Football team - 1-1 is regarded as a loss
New Zealand: possitive - Expectations of Football team - 1-1 is regarded as an historic win!
Now the All Whites only have to beat Italy, then a draw with Paraguay, beat Holland, and Brazil, then Germany, to meet England in the final !!!
England: negative - Expectations of Football team - 1-1 is regarded as a loss
New Zealand: possitive - Expectations of Football team - 1-1 is regarded as an historic win!
Now the All Whites only have to beat Italy, then a draw with Paraguay, beat Holland, and Brazil, then Germany, to meet England in the final !!!
So true!!!
Personally I have been here three weeks so Ill give this a go.
NZ- More space, less cars, less pollution, more space, better fishing, more relaxed, cheaper housing, more space, access to areas that actually take my breath away with the beauty (yes I know the UK has some great spots as well but everything seems to be on a bigger scale here) We went to the coromandel peninsula on a bank holiday recently and thought the road had been closed with quotes of "where is everyone?" and "umm we are on a public road arent we?"
Ill leave my UK stuff at the moment as most of its been said but not a bloody lot really. I dont get why people don't like it here but realise I havent been here long.
Alan
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
If you have access to unpasteurized cream, the 'Joy of Cooking' tells us how we can make our own clotted cream. Begin by taking unpasteurized cream and letting it stand for about 12 hours (during the winter months) or 6 hours (during the warm summer months). Then to sterilize the cream; place the cream over very low heat (do not boil) until rings form on the surface of the cream. Store in a cold place for at least 12 hours and then skim the thick clotted cream from the surface of the cream. You now have homemade Clotted Cream.
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
coffee !!
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
Edmonds cookbook over Delia Smith anyday!
British family pubs.
NZ top loading washing machines.(So much easier for my husband to understand).
Laundry rooms. You have to be just a bit posh to have one here in the UK.
British people and their pets.(We dont tend to chain our dogs to the washing line or put them outside in kennels).
Tetley teabags.
English marmite.
British wildlife.
NZ wildlife.
Not forgetting to mention Tauntons Musgrove Park Hospital. Came home from surgery and a short stay yesterday. Speed and delivery of service were absolutely faultless.
British family pubs.
NZ top loading washing machines.(So much easier for my husband to understand).
Laundry rooms. You have to be just a bit posh to have one here in the UK.
British people and their pets.(We dont tend to chain our dogs to the washing line or put them outside in kennels).
Tetley teabags.
English marmite.
British wildlife.
NZ wildlife.
Not forgetting to mention Tauntons Musgrove Park Hospital. Came home from surgery and a short stay yesterday. Speed and delivery of service were absolutely faultless.
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
Don't where you ride? but I used to think the roads of the republic of south yorkshire were bad, until I came to NZ. Loads of broken road surface, and so many cheap chip sealed roads make for pretty uncomfortable road ring, that plus drivers that must rate as the worst in the western world.
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
NZ Unis - no substantial entrance requirement for many subjects (so not as "elitist" as the UK), poor global ratings for research, etc (size is an issue of course), even more "universal" than the UK - some find that good, others bad...... for me
NZ schools - look good on the OECD ratings but are they that good? Variable I'd say at least at primary level and reports of the same at intermediate and high school. Some primaries are way behind in how they teach, eg phonics, what's phonics??? Private education is relatively cheap, but when you think about what the costs are relative to your NZ $$ income then not so cheap......
NZ health - not free at the point of delivery, there is at least one "poor" (ie. pro-bono) hospital (where people who can't afford to go private have operations done free of charge), check out how many Kiwis have health insurance - also, services in some areas are bad, e.g. the standards of midwifery in some areas can be shocking, when you get to know kiwis you (or your missus) will hear some horror stories about that area.......
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
Don't where you ride? but I used to think the roads of the republic of south yorkshire were bad, until I came to NZ. Loads of broken road surface, and so many cheap chip sealed roads make for pretty uncomfortable road ring, that plus drivers that must rate as the worst in the western world.
Also the weather and road locations make for slips that require plenty of maintenance. It's pretty much a full-time job in some areas - I have friends who own a big roading company and they are busy busy keeping roads open in some areas after rain storms, etc.
This year's dry spell put paid to lots of concrete surfaces around here with big cracks appearig due to subsidence, then lots of rain produced slips and run off.....so NZ roads are not a basket of roses. Although there seem to be fewer pot holes around town.
Crazy drivers though
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
Back to OP's questions
Better:
fresh fruit veggies and some meats - yum, when in season!
amount of daylight in AKL at least
warmth (apart from the winter!)
beaches - number, acceess, quality
lack of dog poo around the place
attitude to sports and outdoor lifestyle
positive attitude to work/life/future
ease of owning own business
opportunities for people who are prepared to take them
attitude to kids (apart from some people in restaurants and some parents who don't care!)
rainfall - reliable most of the time!
low population density
plenty of renewables
more balanced economy but based on agriculture which will always be needed
the Maori attitude to life, the environment and business - putting brakes on some things and keeping up Pakeha in check
cultural diversity (in some areas at least)
Worse:
sausages and cheese!
the NZ village - "Kiwi is best", "NZ experience", "jobs for the boys"
some shocking practice in professional life
monopolies in supermarkets
expense of dental work, optical work
poor housing stock
National govt - -> GST up, taxes down for their mates
racism in some quarters
rugby being more important that other sports
one-eyed attitude of some old school Kiwis
brain drain taking people away for too long
small population so no economies of scale
finance companies, etc who take the money and run!
toploading washers - a very old idea past it sell-by date!
Better:
fresh fruit veggies and some meats - yum, when in season!
amount of daylight in AKL at least
warmth (apart from the winter!)
beaches - number, acceess, quality
lack of dog poo around the place
attitude to sports and outdoor lifestyle
positive attitude to work/life/future
ease of owning own business
opportunities for people who are prepared to take them
attitude to kids (apart from some people in restaurants and some parents who don't care!)
rainfall - reliable most of the time!
low population density
plenty of renewables
more balanced economy but based on agriculture which will always be needed
the Maori attitude to life, the environment and business - putting brakes on some things and keeping up Pakeha in check
cultural diversity (in some areas at least)
Worse:
sausages and cheese!
the NZ village - "Kiwi is best", "NZ experience", "jobs for the boys"
some shocking practice in professional life
monopolies in supermarkets
expense of dental work, optical work
poor housing stock
National govt - -> GST up, taxes down for their mates
racism in some quarters
rugby being more important that other sports
one-eyed attitude of some old school Kiwis
brain drain taking people away for too long
small population so no economies of scale
finance companies, etc who take the money and run!
toploading washers - a very old idea past it sell-by date!
#27
Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
Don't where you ride? but I used to think the roads of the republic of south yorkshire were bad, until I came to NZ. Loads of broken road surface, and so many cheap chip sealed roads make for pretty uncomfortable road ring, that plus drivers that must rate as the worst in the western world.
and as for the drivers, they seem a little unaware at times... but again comparing with Manchester we haven't seen the agressive, dangerous, numpty style driving we have been used to....and the roads are so much quieter which probably helps!
we drove on some unsealed country/hairpin roads in the Coromandel which were a bit scary i have to say! but again, the proper roads in the towns were great quality and in good shape
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
several times I've been flying down south or east and met road engineers off to sort out slips, etc
before you judge the UK too harshly watch a few years of NZ news to see what effects NZ roads and drivers have - you'll get used to discussing it believe me
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Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
Unis are going to introduce entry requirements based on 'grade' of achievement - ie won't accept anyone/everyone who has the right number of credits in the right subjects at the right level, but will be taking those with excellences (and hopefully merits) over those with achieved. This is also likely to be initially based on level 2 (year 12) results as the level 3 results are confirmed so close to the start of the academic year that there may not be time to do all paperwork otherwise.
#30
Re: What Do You Perceive is Better in NZ than in UK?
For a year or so until people get jobs again .