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We've been thinking about transfering our pensions over to NZ

Old Jan 23rd 2013, 6:53 pm
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So yesterday we had a guy from Britannia Financial Services Ltd over to the house to explain what they could do. It all sounded good apart from the fee, a thousand dollars each or 5%, which is the greater. We've not got masses of money in our pensions back in the UK so I'm not wanting to spending a big amount of cash bringing them over.

I know very little about pensions, I used to glaze over as soon as someone mentioned them back in the UK during all the changes that happened to our company pension. I explained to the guy that we had one bloke in our office that read through the huge amount of documents we received on pensions back in the UK and whatever he did, we followed.

I have got much more urgent stuff to be spending $2000 on.

Has anyone got any advise or recommendations?
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Old Jan 23rd 2013, 7:15 pm
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No help from me but I am interested in replies as I'm also thinking about doing this with my 10yrs worth of NHS pension.
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Default Re: We've been thinking about transfering our pensions over to NZ

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Has anyone got any advise or recommendations?
I'm pretty sure this chap charged 1% at the time (2007) http://www.perpetual.co.nz/person/450/view.aspx
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Old Jan 23rd 2013, 9:48 pm
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This was on BBC news pages on the ads might be worth the free offer?
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Old Jan 23rd 2013, 10:01 pm
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There are often ads displayed regarding this on the forum pages at the bottom of the page :-)
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Default Re: We've been thinking about transfering our pensions over to NZ

Originally Posted by barnsleymat
So yesterday we had a guy from Britannia Financial Services Ltd over to the house to explain what they could do. It all sounded good apart from the fee, a thousand dollars each or 5%, which is the greater. We've not got masses of money in our pensions back in the UK so I'm not wanting to spending a big amount of cash bringing them over.

I know very little about pensions, I used to glaze over as soon as someone mentioned them back in the UK during all the changes that happened to our company pension. I explained to the guy that we had one bloke in our office that read through the huge amount of documents we received on pensions back in the UK and whatever he did, we followed.

I have got much more urgent stuff to be spending $2000 on.

Has anyone got any advise or recommendations?
I realise Montfort has a reputation on this thread. However, we got financial advice from them prior to leaving Britain. Can't comment on pension transfer, to personal for this forum !
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there was - is a guy on here that sometimes posts and he's told me a heap about pensions - -but like you I fight to not glaze over
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Default Re: We've been thinking about transfering our pensions over to NZ

We both have pensions with 10 years in them, it is something we will have to think about one day. I remember reading you can pay in for a couple of years from NZ but I'd like to keep paying in for longer. Guess thats the transfer part? It is all very complicated.
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I understand that pension transfer is a one way ticket. You can't transfer it back to the UK should your circumstances change. Or is that just Australia ? People have got their fingers burnt in this way.
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I understand that pension transfer is a one way ticket. You can't transfer it back to the UK should your circumstances change. Or is that just Australia ? People have got their fingers burnt in this way.
But UK and NZ aren't the only choices, you can transfer it anywhere there is a QROPS-recognised scheme to transfer it to, elsewhere in Europe for e.g., may be other options.
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Old Jan 24th 2013, 9:22 pm
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I have a friend who is a financial advisor, he tells me that there is an international pension that you can transfer UK based pensions into. He is investigating the finer details for me as I have a good teachers pension.
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Try mike Wilkey at financial migration services in Hastings. He is British so wealth of knowledge on both sides and can at least give you a comparison.
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Default Re: We've been thinking about transfering our pensions over to NZ

We have asked Global QROPS to do a report for us and although the fees seem quite expensive they are taken from the fund and dont have to be paid up front.
The guy came to our house and went into things quite deeply and answered all the questions I had.
Now bearing in mind we both have good pensions in Local Government Pension Fund schemes, which will be hard to beat, so he is doing the report and will advise on transfer or not.
They are legislated by the FSA so any problems with what they tell you, they can be reported to FSA so feel confident enough to use them initially but will see what they come back with.
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Old Jan 26th 2013, 9:25 am
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Default Re: We've been thinking about transfering our pensions over to NZ

Originally Posted by simonsi
But UK and NZ aren't the only choices, you can transfer it anywhere there is a QROPS-recognised scheme to transfer it to, elsewhere in Europe for e.g., may be other options.
The issue is (was) that the money is taxed in New Zealand if it is put somewhere overseas or even if it is left in the UK, despite the fact that it can't be touched until retirement. (Overseas pensions are considered as a Foreign Investment Fund for tax purposes, there are some exceptions but I don't think that there will be many UK pension schemes to which the exceptions apply).

The IRD are proposing to change the treatment of these schemes (by taxing the money when it is received instead) so while these things are up in the air it might be wise to defer making a decision for the moment, if that is an option.

We've transferred ours to NZ now because the four year new migrant tax exemption was coming to an end for us and I don't wan't to have to keep abreast of the rules of two different Governments at the same time. UK Governments have the habit of changing the rules on pensions on a regular basis.
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This is something I've often wondered about, but like matt they aren't huge (7 and 5 year NHS ones, and a 3 year University one).
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