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Richard H May 7th 2008 7:35 pm

Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 
We are shortly moving to Wellington from the UK. We have a 2 year old daughter. Can anyone advise on pleasant areas to rent / buy. We like the beach and the trees but ultimately we are looking for a quiet area where we can feel safe at night away from traffic .

luvwelly May 7th 2008 11:38 pm

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Richard H (Post 6320168)
We are shortly moving to Wellington from the UK. We have a 2 year old daughter. Can anyone advise on pleasant areas to rent / buy. We like the beach and the trees but ultimately we are looking for a quiet area where we can feel safe at night away from traffic .

The good news is there aren't really any 'no go' areas for safety in Central Wellington suburbs...personally I wouldn't want to live in Te Aro and Newtown...nearby Island Bay (on the coast) would be great though...but that's just me.
In Johnsonville and Porirua there may be areas best avoided.
However to get an idea of the relative economic wealth of any area, identify the decile 9/10 schools from the relevant website and hey presto there will at least be some correlation between the high decile and the best areas to live. It will probably throw up Karori, Khandallah, Seatoun, Roseneath, Brooklyn etc etc all the usual suspects!

Many others despise it but for a sort of scenic rural modern detached housing development, take a look at Churton Park which is out towards Porirua just past Johnsonville. There are still new properties going up I think and there seems to be a healthy re-sale market.There are also some rentals available - where owners move overseas temporarily usually.

Hokey-pokey May 8th 2008 12:05 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 
Roseneath or Hataitai. Seatoun is lovely too and very close to beach. Almost forgot Eastbourne - super spot.

Littletoe May 8th 2008 12:05 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by luvwelly (Post 6321049)
The good news is there aren't really any 'no go' areas for safety in Central Wellington suburbs...personally I wouldn't want to live in Te Aro and Newtown...nearby Island Bay (on the coast) would be great though...but that's just me.
In Johnsonville and Porirua there may be areas best avoided.
However to get an idea of the relative economic wealth of any area, identify the decile 9/10 schools from the relevant website and hey presto there will at least be some correlation between the high decile and the best areas to live. It will probably throw up Karori, Khandallah, Seatoun, Roseneath, Brooklyn etc etc all the usual suspects!

Many others despise it but for a sort of scenic rural modern detached housing development, take a look at Churton Park which is out towards Porirua just past Johnsonville. There are still new properties going up I think and there seems to be a healthy re-sale market.There are also some rentals available - where owners move overseas temporarily usually.


Yeah, what she said! Places like Seatoun are very sought after, the reason I'm not so keen is because the houses are somewhat older and smaller and I dont like living inside of a city, so I preferred the Northern Suburbs. I can't understand this fascination with Mirimar, I personally think its a dump! But its an affluent area, so I must be missing something. Northern suburbs are more catered towards professional families. Churton Park does have some nice larger houses and new houses, access to motorway, schools, etc. Its kind of a more upmarket Johnsonville! If you head over Porirua way, don't be alarmed by the centre! Its pretty vulgar and as a rule most people from Porirua suburbs tend not to venture in. There are large supermarkets (Pac N Save for the zombies and as the name suggest you have to pack your own groceries! Crazy business!, and Countdown). Also a large retail park, but its quite rough and it makes me miss the North Shore shopping in Auckland. However, suburbs around Porirua are very popular. Whitby is rather charming, just DON'T BE ON THE Canon's Creek side, eurgh! Any of the Eastern suburbs are pretty much no go, reminds me of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire! Oh and Tawa and Newlands are areas best avoided (Northern Suburbs). Although I understand that Tawa is changing itself and appealing to investors, but its got a long way to go to look presentable! Newlands is without a doubt one of the worst suburbs, every time I've been in that area there are gangs lurking around. Generally houses have been damp and poorly looked after. If you drive a nice car through those parts - don't stop!! And DON'T LOOK THEM IN THE EYES! I'm obviously bias when I say I like Camborne/Plimmerton. Right on the beach, quiet, better class of people! Good schools, an EXCELLENT primary school in Plimmerton. but the commute is a bit longer maybe 40 mins in peak hour? And that's driving like an arsehole (like me!). Titahi Bay is a funny one. Its actually very pretty, right on the water. But as a rule my family and I stick out like sore thumbs when we're in that area, you'll have to use your imagination as to why, bro!

Rentals are better priced in the Northern Suburbs and your money will go further. Have a look at trademe.co.nz and/or quinovic.co.nz for ideas of price catergories and sizes. Don't forget, always negotiate on rent! It would be preferable for you to rent first until the market settles. Loads of Brits live in Papakowhai (think I spelt it right!) so if you want to be around your own kind, look no further.

Of course, the Kapiti coast is rather appealing, a few seaside type towns along the way. But the commute is a bitch. There is one road, its narrow and it doesn't matter what time I've driven on that road, I ALWAYS get stuck behind someone that crawls along I've not investigated Pukera Bay which is where Peter Jackson is from and apparantly has a house. Its after the lousy one laned road, maybe someone can comment on that?

Anyway, you won't know until you've seen them all. We came here with places in mind, but changed once we investigated the places! We got a six week rental in Johnsonville while we explored the local suburbs, this is something for you to consider doing as well.

Anyhoo, hope this helps!

Littletoe May 8th 2008 12:09 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Hokey-pokey (Post 6321093)
Roseneath or Hataitai. Seatoun is lovely too and very close to beach. Almost forgot Eastbourne - super spot.

Oh yeah, Easbourne - forgot that one! This was one of the places we had in mind when we looked at places. Our rental budget was up to NZ$700 a week, so we got to see some nice places BUT that's actually very cheap and you need to spend more a week to get something worthwhile - anyway , in general we found the houses to be cold and drafty. I've also managed a few properties in the area and they tend to suffer with dampness. That's not to say there aren't any gems there as I'm sure with a good hunt you might be able to find yourself one!

Avid May 8th 2008 1:21 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Richard H (Post 6320168)
We are shortly moving to Wellington from the UK. We have a 2 year old daughter. Can anyone advise on pleasant areas to rent / buy. We like the beach and the trees but ultimately we are looking for a quiet area where we can feel safe at night away from traffic .

Budget?

Pimali May 8th 2008 5:02 am

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I would not consider Churton park, having visited a friend there: miles away from Wellington central, and horrible rows of newly built houses... Well not my cup of tea, but my friend loves it...

Eastbourne is on the other side of the bay, 30' drive (or 20' if you dare) from Wellington CBD, but very pretty and wonderful views.
Seatoun is close to the city, nicely oriented, please remember to check where the South is (meaning: the cold side!!): some areas look nice (Te Aro) but are constantly in the shade because facing South...

Island Bay looks nice to me, does not seem to be badly inhabited and close to beaches.

I live in Mount Victoria, central city, lovely houses, and I would say very, very quiet...:zzz: Everybody goes to bed at 10.00, or 11.00 on Friday nights. :D

I pay a rent of $840 a week for a house with small garden,double garage, 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms and gaz heating. (anyone interested? I'm about to leave NZ, the house is for rent from June 22nd!!:rofl:)

Kiwiprincess May 8th 2008 5:47 am

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The places i thought of, after taking note that you said ultimately safe at night and away from traffic were actually places like karori, tawa, churton park, khandallah, pukerua bay, plimmerton,etc. More family oriented areas. All are areas with a decent public transport link (karori, churton park and some of khandallah by bus, Khandallah also by train, tawa, pukerua bay, plimmerton by train) and places with stuff like parks, decent schools and daycare, libraries etc.

sorry, can't recommend places in the Hutts. No particular reason why not, i just live on the other side of the hill....all my friends live on that side....so i am not too sure of the places to recommend in Lower or upper Hutt. I could take a guess and suggest some places but they would be as an observer rather than someone who lives and plays there. WHereas i live and play on the left side of the Island. :) My knowledge of Lower Hutt comes from working there a few years ago rather than living there.

Browner_ May 8th 2008 6:06 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Pimali (Post 6321835)

I pay a rent of $840 a week for a house with small garden,double garage, 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms and gaz heating. (anyone interested? I'm about to leave NZ, the house is for rent from June 22nd!!:rofl:)

At $840 a week, no thanks, Ill give you a ring when Ive won the lottery!

Avid May 8th 2008 10:18 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Pimali (Post 6321835)
II live in Mount Victoria, central city, lovely houses, and I would say very, very quiet...:zzz: Everybody goes to bed at 10.00, or 11.00 on Friday nights. :D

I pay a rent of $840 a week for a house with small garden,double garage, 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms and gaz heating. (anyone interested? I'm about to leave NZ, the house is for rent from June 22nd!!:rofl:)


$840 for Mount Victoria? You were robbed. You could get something similar on Roseneath Terrace (i.e. 2 streets away) for under $650. Apart from the heating....I suppose they added $200/week for the fact that the house was warm.

By the way the whole country is tucked in at 10pm, it's nothing personal.

simonmarkellis May 9th 2008 1:05 am

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Originally Posted by Avid (Post 6322576)
By the way the whole country is tucked in at 10pm, it's nothing personal.

Not quite true as you edited your post at 10:24pm!!!

Pimali May 9th 2008 8:16 pm

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Avid (Post 6322576)
$840 for Mount Victoria? You were robbed. You could get something similar on Roseneath Terrace (i.e. 2 streets away) for under $650.

... I would not walk to central city from Roseneath Terrace! (with small kids, no way) and I do from my place, which is really close to Courtenay place. I seldom use my car and I believe it's valuable.

I too believe prices are too high for these houses (really cheap building, even though mine dates back to 1864) because even though Wellington is a capital city, and Mount Vic is a central location, well, hem hem... :blink:
(could not believe the houses in the area were sold around $1 million!)

One thing: we chose this expensive house for one main reason: all other places we visited for a "cheaper" price (were looking around $600) were certainly not central and ... SMELLED! This was the first clean, obviously aerated and warm house, compared to the dozens we visited before...:sad_smile:

Avid May 9th 2008 9:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Pimali (Post 6330634)
One thing: we chose this expensive house for one main reason: all other places we visited for a "cheaper" price (were looking around $600) were certainly not central and ... SMELLED! This was the first clean, obviously aerated and warm house, compared to the dozens we visited before...:sad_smile:


Couldn't agree more with you about the shoddiness of the $1million+ housing.

Funnily enough I've found a warm, centrally located, clean and non-smelly house for UNDER $600/week and am moving there this weekend.

There must be a catch....but I won't know what it is until I've lived there for a while.

MrCFD May 11th 2008 2:10 am

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Originally Posted by Pimali (Post 6321835)
I would not consider Churton park, having visited a friend there: miles away from Wellington central

...Eastbourne is on the other side of the bay, 30' drive (or 20' if you dare) from Wellington CBD,

What are you on about? I don't live in Churton Park, but would bet my left one that I could get into the city from Churton Park faster than you could from Eastbourne!!!

MrCFD May 11th 2008 2:20 am

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Originally Posted by Pimali (Post 6321835)
I pay a rent of $840 a week for a house with small garden...

They saw you coming!!!

We didn't even pay that in AUCKLAND for a huge 700m2 8 year old house with 5 bedrooms, 5 bathrooms, 4 living areas, HUGE office, large internal courtyard on 4 acres of manicured lawns with two rows of mature pine trees on two of the boundaries and a river running through the property!

Not far from courtenay place is not a selling point either! Especially with kids!

MrCFD May 11th 2008 2:30 am

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I would recommend looking now for your daughter's enrollment in pre-school and school, even if you don't know where you will be! Everywhere has a waiting list in Wellington and we have been lucky to get out 3 year old enrolled already in an integrated primary school (partially private), and have our unborn child on the waitlist for a good pre-school to start in a couple of years time!

We had to be interviewed twice before we could put our daughter on to the roll, and we were only able to reduce the waiting list by using our contacts ;)

Pimali May 11th 2008 4:27 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by MrCFD (Post 6334891)
They saw you coming!!!

We didn't even pay that in AUCKLAND for a huge 700m2 8 year old house with 5 bedrooms, 5 bathrooms, 4 living areas, HUGE office, large internal courtyard on 4 acres of manicured lawns with two rows of mature pine trees on two of the boundaries and a river running through the property!

Not far from courtenay place is not a selling point either! Especially with kids!

I did not understand that the link was entitled "I give my opinion on how much the others pay their rent and I know better than them". Funny.:eek: :p

I hope that Richard managed to sort information out of the thread anyway, since some (other) people posted interesting pieces of information about different places in and around Wellington.;)

poppets May 11th 2008 5:07 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Littletoe (Post 6321095)
Yeah, what she said! Places like Seatoun are very sought after, the reason I'm not so keen is because the houses are somewhat older and smaller and I dont like living inside of a city, so I preferred the Northern Suburbs. I can't understand this fascination with Mirimar, I personally think its a dump! But its an affluent area, so I must be missing something. Northern suburbs are more catered towards professional families. Churton Park does have some nice larger houses and new houses, access to motorway, schools, etc. Its kind of a more upmarket Johnsonville! If you head over Porirua way, don't be alarmed by the centre! Its pretty vulgar and as a rule most people from Porirua suburbs tend not to venture in. There are large supermarkets (Pac N Save for the zombies and as the name suggest you have to pack your own groceries! Crazy business!, and Countdown). Also a large retail park, but its quite rough and it makes me miss the North Shore shopping in Auckland. However, suburbs around Porirua are very popular. Whitby is rather charming, just DON'T BE ON THE Canon's Creek side, eurgh! Any of the Eastern suburbs are pretty much no go, reminds me of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire! Oh and Tawa and Newlands are areas best avoided (Northern Suburbs). Although I understand that Tawa is changing itself and appealing to investors, but its got a long way to go to look presentable! Newlands is without a doubt one of the worst suburbs, every time I've been in that area there are gangs lurking around. Generally houses have been damp and poorly looked after. If you drive a nice car through those parts - don't stop!! And DON'T LOOK THEM IN THE EYES! I'm obviously bias when I say I like Camborne/Plimmerton. Right on the beach, quiet, better class of people! Good schools, an EXCELLENT primary school in Plimmerton. but the commute is a bit longer maybe 40 mins in peak hour? And that's driving like an arsehole (like me!). Titahi Bay is a funny one. Its actually very pretty, right on the water. But as a rule my family and I stick out like sore thumbs when we're in that area, you'll have to use your imagination as to why, bro!

Rentals are better priced in the Northern Suburbs and your money will go further. Have a look at trademe.co.nz and/or quinovic.co.nz for ideas of price catergories and sizes. Don't forget, always negotiate on rent! It would be preferable for you to rent first until the market settles. Loads of Brits live in Papakowhai (think I spelt it right!) so if you want to be around your own kind, look no further.

Of course, the Kapiti coast is rather appealing, a few seaside type towns along the way. But the commute is a bitch. There is one road, its narrow and it doesn't matter what time I've driven on that road, I ALWAYS get stuck behind someone that crawls along I've not investigated Pukera Bay which is where Peter Jackson is from and apparantly has a house. Its after the lousy one laned road, maybe someone can comment on that?

Anyway, you won't know until you've seen them all. We came here with places in mind, but changed once we investigated the places! We got a six week rental in Johnsonville while we explored the local suburbs, this is something for you to consider doing as well.

Anyhoo, hope this helps!

my hubby used to commute into the CBD from the coast , & now commutes to the hutt, he quite enjoys his drive either over the paekak hills & the haywards down SH1, but hey one size doesn't fit all

luvwelly May 11th 2008 5:17 am

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Originally Posted by MrCFD (Post 6334879)
What are you on about? I don't live in Churton Park, but would bet my left one that I could get into the city from Churton Park faster than you could from Eastbourne!!!

I agree - I visited a friend in Churton Park on Friday at 11am it took me 10 mins to drive there with no traffic whatsoever around. I drove back at 2.35pm and was in car park near kids school on far side of Wellington less than 15 mins later. She says it takes her OH 20 mins by car in peak rush hour only to get into CBD.

I thought as I always think when I visit her there..what a pleasant area and so quiet. Far from' the rows of houses' Pimali mentions...I should point out they are all detached and with more space in between than on a typical UK newbuild estate - wide roads too. There is also quite a good community spirit among stay at home Mums and she has found it easy to make friends with kiwis.
The drive from Eastbourne would be a pain but there is the ferry option. Never quite got the attraction of Eastbourne myself...very cut off and poor shops.

Littletoe May 11th 2008 5:18 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by Pimali (Post 6335079)
I did not understand that the link was entitled "I give my opinion on how much the others pay their rent and I know better than them". Funny.:eek: :p

I hope that Richard managed to sort information out of the thread anyway, since some (other) people posted interesting pieces of information about different places in and around Wellington.;)

Easy tiger. You mentioned the rent price AND advertised it! Its important the original poster gets a feel for pricing and when rent can be too much. If you didn't want the discussion - don't mention the price! I'm sure ALL the information provided in this thread has helped the OP.

Littletoe May 11th 2008 5:22 am

Re: Wellington ' Nice ' areas to live.
 

Originally Posted by poppets (Post 6335118)
my hubby used to commute into the CBD from the coast , & now commutes to the hutt, he quite enjoys his drive either over the paekak hills & the haywards down SH1, but hey one size doesn't fit all

Oh the drive is lovely! I can imagine enjoying it every morning, the views are lovely and when we first got here the Kapiti coast was the only place I wanted to live! However, all you need is one accident and you won't get into work! Furthermore, the addition of commute times adds greatly to the working day. I think its something that someone will quickly decide when they do the route whether it suits or not.

poppets May 11th 2008 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by Littletoe (Post 6335143)
Oh the drive is lovely! I can imagine enjoying it every morning, the views are lovely and when we first got here the Kapiti coast was the only place I wanted to live! However, all you need is one accident and you won't get into work! Furthermore, the addition of commute times adds greatly to the working day. I think its something that someone will quickly decide when they do the route whether it suits or not.

absolutely , & up here on the coast you get used to crawling along behind the old dears:D, give us more time to appreciate the scenery:)

Kiwiprincess May 11th 2008 9:27 pm

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If you are happy to get the bus then it is now really quick from Eastbourne. Still takes longer than, say, Churton Park with its own off/on ramp to the motorway but due to the bus lanes you can get into Eastbourne quite speedily. It surprised me actually :)

Still, if you were driving it would be a nightmare and a half. Ferry is one thing but paying $8 each way is quite 'spensive.

Browner_ May 12th 2008 2:15 am

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Originally Posted by Kiwiprincess (Post 6337562)
Still, if you were driving it would be a nightmare and a half. Ferry is one thing but paying $8 each way is quite 'spensive.

$8 each way to be delivered from heart of residential area into heart of CBD with no petrol and no parking costs – I would have said that was quite cheap.

Kiwiprincess May 12th 2008 2:29 am

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Originally Posted by Browner_ (Post 6338019)
$8 each way to be delivered from heart of residential area into heart of CBD with no petrol and no parking costs – I would have said that was quite cheap.

That is a very good point....Not to mention the fact it only takes 20 minutes! Around twice the price of a bus but not a bad way to start the day (as long as it is a nice clear day...rolling around in the waves wouldn't be so nice).

Ted Logan May 12th 2008 3:10 am

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True, once winter rolls in I can see that getting empty :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

teambwr47 May 12th 2008 3:54 am

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Makes me laugh reading how people on here, in Wellington, think the traffic is bad..........

Wellington is a small city even including the outskirts and when we were there we tried drivng in and out of the CBD at various times......the traffic is easy compared to the UK cities, Auckland....in fact most places. The drive from CBD to Churton park was 10-15 minutes at the most.

The one and only thing in our view that Wellington had going for it was the ease of getting around be it by train (compared to other parts of NZ, not UK) or car.

As there were other more important things we chose using a flat there and living elsewhere.

luvwelly May 12th 2008 4:17 am

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Originally Posted by teambwr47 (Post 6338194)
Makes me laugh reading how people on here, in Wellington, think the traffic is bad..........

So true, this stuff is all relative to what you were used to before or what you expect from a particular location. I do not consider the traffic here or in Auckland to be that bad because I used to commute to London by train from the provinces.
I would probably find a commute from the Kapiti coast to Wellington CBD a piece of cake compared to my old long UK commute but if you can live centrally, why not do so if keeping travel to work time to a minimum is important for you.
You definitely get more land for your money the further out you go though.


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