Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
You clearly have no idea of how seasonal work or how it is for seasonal workers in New Zealand nor how it works.
I will repeat. I am actually on the ground here I know how it goes. Period.
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
No offence but I could say the exact same to you:
You clearly have no idea of how seasonal work or how it is for seasonal workers in Latvia, Hungary, Slovenia, Israel, Bulgaria nor how it works.
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
Richard Murphy wrote this overnight and it could apply equally as well to NZ's uncaring government:
"Thatcher put it in a nutshell, of course. She said there was no such thing as society. And she meant it. Neoliberalism says there are only markets. And contractual relationships. But no obligations. No duty. No care. Just mercenary relationships"
https://tinyurl.com/ybpnasm8
"Thatcher put it in a nutshell, of course. She said there was no such thing as society. And she meant it. Neoliberalism says there are only markets. And contractual relationships. But no obligations. No duty. No care. Just mercenary relationships"
https://tinyurl.com/ybpnasm8
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
Even during the boom that figure was high here in Ireland and what is so bad if parents have time for their kids? Some just don't have to work and live off the land (farming, rental income etc.). Some people just work during the season and register as unemployed during the winter, but are still finacially better off than others and have time for kids.
This is faulty logic/ nonsense arguing. It's not EITHER parents work full time yet still don't have enough money OR families are in poverty but the parents have more time to spend with the children. It's better for the children (and the parents) if there is enough household income to ensure that the family is not in poverty. That's born out in an avalanche of research.
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
This of course made NZ very attractive to British migrants escaping post-war deprivation through the 40's to 70's.
NZ had a high standard of living, second only to the US in the 50's.
After Britain joined the Common Market, NZ lost access to a UK market that had existed for 100 years, and following the oil shocks things went down hill rapidly.
Because NZ was still on a fixed exchange rate (ended in 84) the government had to defend the NZ$ through it's foreign currency reserves obtained through trade.
Prime Minister Muldoon was borrowing from overseas to prop up the economy and put in place a wage & price freeze trying to control the inevitable inflation.
Understandably, Muldoon was defeated in the 84 election and the progressive Labour leader David Lange was elected.
But he was ambushed by the Monetarist in his cabinet, and neoliberalism became the new paradigm that is still with us today.
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
That is the only thing you could come up with .78 vs .9 and ignore the
Teen suicide rate
Children in jobless households
Performance in reading, maths and science
No wonder the country is in the state its in, if you are a typical NZ.
No country is perfect but your response is just pathetic.
Teen suicide rate
Children in jobless households
Performance in reading, maths and science
No wonder the country is in the state its in, if you are a typical NZ.
No country is perfect but your response is just pathetic.
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
That is the only thing you could come up with .78 vs .9 and ignore the
Teen suicide rate
Children in jobless households
Performance in reading, maths and science
No wonder the country is in the state its in, if you are a typical NZ.
No country is perfect but your response is just pathetic.
Teen suicide rate
Children in jobless households
Performance in reading, maths and science
No wonder the country is in the state its in, if you are a typical NZ.
No country is perfect but your response is just pathetic.
#23
Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
geoff52 is a bitter and twisted troll that didn't have the points for NZ and had to go to Canada instead! Mods have asked him to stop trolling, but he hasn't stopped, I told him to p**s off back to the Canada page but got edited by Mods!!
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
This is faulty logic/ nonsense arguing. It's not EITHER parents work full time yet still don't have enough money OR families are in poverty but the parents have more time to spend with the children. It's better for the children (and the parents) if there is enough household income to ensure that the family is not in poverty. That's born out in an avalanche of research.
Many children in some of the mentioned countries can't afford to study and when they do, they actually have to move abroad to make a living with a minimum wage job. You rarely see a doctor or lawyer from New Zealand move abroad to work in a supermarket.
Last edited by Moses2013; Jun 19th 2017 at 7:17 am.
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Re: Wellbeing of NZ's children places us 34th out of 41
Regardless of you being there, this person will argue to the end that his data is more accurate over your experience.......Hes an absolute expert on NS too