AndyEvs

"As sales of frozen burgers have tumbled amid further evidence of horsemeat in a range of meat products including ready meals, Quorn – the UK's biggest vegetarian ready meal brand – said last week that it had seen sales growth more than double in the second half of February as shoppers snapped up its burgers, mince and sausages made from a form of fungus."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...scandal-survey

TommyLuck

Yes it is bad for you. In order to be a food that starts as a fungus, cultivated in a vat and turned into 'food' there are too many addetives and preservatives going in to this product for it to benefit your health.

Sure enough, it wont kill you stone dead, but over time it wont do you any favours.

Look around you. Obeseity and overweight people are all around us. Billions of people are lead to this by being coerced in to making the wrong choices.

I was a case in point. Until recently.

You want empirical evidence?

I'm a sporty person; Cycling (80-100 miles a week), Football (one 11 a-side game a week), gym (3-5 times a week).

Check out this link;

http://www.finalphasefitness.co.uk/before-and-after/

The guy labelled 'Sam', is me.

I by and large cut out the 'crap' food and that is what happened over the course of 6 months. My exercise regime has been the same throughout.

I have since improved further on the picture on the right.


I have absolutely NO problem with people who are happy with themselves, whatever weight they carry.

How can I judge? I was once 18 stone, although 15 and half stone in the picture on the left.

But in my recent experience many are not.

My fat (not weight!!!) loss has lead to many a person cornering me to ask how I did it. I explain the basic principles and people are appalled (almost offended) when I tell them the list of things they shouldn't be eating.

What bothers me is gigantic food corperations fooling everyone in sundry that they are eating healthily when they are not. Quorn is a case in point.

TommyLuck

Thankfully, it's just as well I can choose not to buy them in NZ, as I do in the UK.

We all like a treat, I went for a few beers and curry last night after going to watch some football.

But what is essentially a treat for breakfast, and a pretty average treat to boot - is marketed as a healthly breakfast option and people buy in to it.

Of course, 'lil old me cant hope to complete with a multi-multi-billion dollar industry. I can but try from my soap box.

AndyEvs

Sorry Tommy but that is not empirical evidence that Quorn is bad for you, only evidence that a change in diet and exercise habits will impact on your health and weight.

So far all we have is your opinion. What exactly is added to Quorn during it's production? Have you worked in the factory that makes it? Can you give us a detailed list?

In 2008 I took up running and cycling and changed my diet. I lost just over 15kg and also had a number of people asking how I did it. My answer is simply exercise more and eat less. Which is what I did.
However, I could state that I decreased my intact of red meat and increased my intake of Quorn and use that as some kind of justification for the following statement

QUORN IS GOOD FOR YOU

Clearly basing that statement on that evidence would be total nonsense.

So I'm afraid you still have provided nothing in terms of justification of your views on Quorn.

TommyLuck

To be honest my last post was a holding post.

I'm going to the supermarket this evening and am going to take a snapshot of the nutritional information and ingredients of Quorn.

Frankly however, anything that isn't meat but is made to look like meat, which some Quorn products are, just isn't right. It has to have been modified so much, it'll be nowhere near its natural state.

Nutritionists the world over will tell you that one should really eat products that are in their natural state, where possible.

Which is why someone like Dr Lustig (look him up) will tell you that fruit juice is no good, but whole fruit is fine.

And, I would wholly disagree with this;

"My answer is simply exercise more and eat less."

It's not scientific enough and is exactly the view that food companies use to market their "healthy" options.

If anything, I eat MORE!!!

Not all calories are made equal, again something Lustig would agree with.

If I'm eating 100 calories of a chocolate bar (bad carbs), compared to 100 calories of salmon (protein) they both have a very different effect on the metabolism of the body.

AndyEvs

You would wholly disagree with my description of how I lost 15kg and improved my fitness?

Brilliant, I must have imagined the whole thing. But thanks for the useful info on carbs I had no idea that the calorific content of chocolate is different to that of salmon...........

I think I'll save people from the boredom of me describing my diet or exercise regime, here or elsewhere online and go for a long run with some top quality trance instead.

Catchafire

Why not just use mushrooms? Portabello mushrooms have a lovely meaty flavour and texture.

Andy got any recommendations (sorry changing subject), I have a load of Global Underground/Sasha/John Digweed/Oakenfold mixes, which are getting a bit stale and since moved on to DNB.

AndyEvs

Now we're talking! I have loads of Global Underground, Sasha, Digweed etc too. Was really into breakbeat for a while too but for running there is nothing better than Above & Beyond, either the old podcasts 'Trance Around the World' (250 is my fave) or the new 'Group Therapy' podcasts. They are all available to download. I also really like the Eric Prydz podcast and for D&B I still really rate High Contrast and the Hospital Radio podcasts.
Think I might post separately about my new gadget that I am listening to a podcast on right now.

killercat

Well who'd of thought one little comment for my fellow veggie friends would cause such a debate! Me personally, i dont really care what goes in it, i like it and will carry on eating it as im sure will many. We all have a choice what we put in our bodies and there is good and bad in most things, but hey we only have one life and its up to all of us what we do with it.

babybella

May as well use mushrooms and add some spice then. Probably a whole lot cheaper and healthier too. I never really got the Quorn thing in the UK. If yu are veggie why do you need a meat subsitute?
Kaz

BEVS

Protein. Variety. Texture.

Just a guess on my part.

AndyEvs

For us it's the mince and the pieces that mean that as a family (where only my wife is a vegetarian) we can easily knock up meals that we will all eat (chilli, wraps, curry, lasagne etc) rather than cooking 2 separate dishes.
In addition, stuff like chicken nuggets (when the kids were younger) have such a lot of crap in them that I used to make my own or use the Quorn ones which ultimately I felt were a bit better health wise.
Ultimately it's all about personal choice isn't it? I make no claim to eat the healthiest of diet, Quorn or otherwise, but I also don't drink 10L of coke a day and never eat at MacDonalds, KFC or Subway. So while I won't tell you Quorn is the healthiest food on the planet I'll eat what I jolly well choose to and the food nazis can stick their macrobiotic, sugar-free, yoghurt-knitting, diet fad, holier than thou ideas in the processor with their hideous green smoothies!!!!!

HeatherGirl

You have made my night!!! Quorn is what I miss the most, second to family and friends! Yay! I'm back to being a veggie! No need for chicken anymore.

And for those who say it has no taste, maybe not but it picks up the flavours of a mean curry!

BEVS

Mate ! Difficult to get a flavoursome chicken that one can afford anyway. Am wanting a neighbour with land to grow up some meat chickens but am meeting with resistance, At least that way I'd know they were organic and fed well with happy lives.

AndyEvs

Heathergirl, you'll need to be quick, it seems every time we go into countdown or new world now we empty their freezer of Quorn products!