Pom_Chch

Or perhaps it's personal choice and has nothing to do with money. Parenthood isn't for everyone 🙂

BEVS

Quite Pom_ChCh. Quite. It could also be that young NZers have got sensible in their expectations and , like several young couples I know, have decided to go that good old fashioned route . Bought do-ups. Are saving and have chosen to wait to have kids whilst they get themselves sorted. Rather than have the kids and then bewail what they then cannot afford to achieve.

Thread title was about the vaccine . Now it seems it is yet another thread for those anti Adern & the current Govt to find ways to have their little pops. *sigh* It's boring.

Covid Vaccine Planning NZ

Charismatic

Thanks BEVS. There was some talk of early participants needing to download an app. to track any side effects but I've not heard it mentioned since.

Justcol

How long till someone claims the vaccination plan is racist and goes against the treaty

Bo-Jangles

No doubt that any inequity will be avoided by way of a separately targeted campaign with dedicated teams set up specifically for Maori Whanau and pacific people.

LittleGreyCat

Well, we have had our first dose (Pfizer) and hope/expect to have our second dose around end April beginning of May.
Perhaps even earlier as our local GP practice seems to be well ahead of the centralised NHS mass vaccination clinics.

Assuming NZ will be done by the end of this calendar year and may then be able to gently open up to tourists.

We are conflicted; we want to get to NZ a.s.a.p. but don't want to add to the risk to our family members who are safe and well behind the safety measures.

Bo-Jangles

I don't see how you would be conflicted; this Government simply will not allow or enable you to put your family members or other new Zealanders at risk. Travel will not be opened up until majority of people here and elsewhere have had the vaccine and no doubt some forms of isolation measures and checking on vaccine status for incoming people from overseas will need to be put in place.

jarv5116

Na at some point after so much % of the population has been vaccinated. They are going to have to let the virus spread and control it.
They can't let the virus run now because of the poor health care system.
As soon as the border opens up your going get the virus in NZ no matter what.
But if a high % of the population has been vaccinated it will be like containing the flu just now.

garethwm

I am under the impression that the vaccine NZ will be using initially is 95% effective. I think that means it is good enough to take care of the virus before the person gets any symptoms, in 95% of cases. So I don't think there will be any rush to relax the border until all those that want to be vaccinated have received it.

Charismatic

The BioNTech/Pfizer one has been well proven as effective against all variants so far.

MIQ doesn't appear to be capable of handling demand any more, it's presently fully booked as far in advance as bookings are allowed.

Mishclark

I'll be getting it early on in Oz as I've been working in an Aged care facility 😊

chocolate cake

I'd be surprised if NZ is open this time next year.

dfjordan

I read that NZ hopes to have all vaccinated by the end of the year, ie 5 million in 10 months; pretty lousy in my opinion. Chile, has vaccinatec just under 3 million in 3 weeks.

Charismatic

I think the issue is vaccine supply. New Zealands main order isn't due to arrive until June or July. The government will be eager to do this rapidly as otherwise one coughy boy could spoil the party.
Regarding travel I'm not sure if there is a substantial benefit of keeping borders closed once everyone who wants a vaccine has had one? It seems that Coronavirus will become endemic in human populations anyway. That said I expect easing will be cautious with triplicate testing replacing MIQ.

garethwm

Me too.