Kotare

As a political 'junkie' I have been following the UK roadshow with a degree of fascinated horror.

If you believe that you get the politicians you deserve, the Brit electorate must have done something really horrible. A Referendum cry was for democracy and 'take back control' but the current imbroglio isn't a good recommendation for that.

NZ politics may be boring but it is better than the current UK performance :-)

simonsi

I think Europe deserved that vote, they have always taken a vote on "A" as a mandate for "B", "C" and "D".

What was/is the Europe end-game? (hint) there isn't one, and thats the problem, no-one has ever known what they were signing up to, presumably they were heading for a fully-federalised single state? Who knows...just like Yugoslavia, I think Europe will fragment now.

MrsFychan

there is still no guarantee that Article 50 will be posted, David Cameron won't do it and will in fact the new Prime Minister? maybe it was just a coup to get Cameron out, as holding a vote of no confidence may not of worked.

LoCarb

Right, get the pitchforks out! Could be another peasants' revolt.

The Heart of England lays siege to London.

Beefeaters stand guard over the Crown Jewels as Robin Hood's marksmen kill all the rooks at the Tower.

Kotare

No article 50, new election, UKIP sweeps the provinces, the remainers migrate to NZ

escapedtonz

Cameron will not invoke article 50 as he won't allow himself to be the person who is tarnished with the crappy brush if in doing that it all turns to custard. He'll not want to be the person who goes down in history as causing the destruction of the UK.....if in fact that was to happen. It'll be a self preservation thing to ensure his political career can continue.

So, the decision will lie with whoever takes over. If that is Mr Johnson or whoever then he or she could be committing political suicide invoking article 50 as it may inevitably cause their political career to come to an end fairly sharpish depending on how things pan out if the UK do in fact leave the EU.
This leaving the EU thing may never happen. Think they have up to 2 years to invoke article 50?
I wouldn't like to be the one with the decision to push the button.

simonsi

To be honest if Boris doesn't then his political career will finish, right here and now.

Charismatic

Looks to me like Boris is trying to U-turn:
No idea what this rubbish about Jeremy Corbyn is about, his personal appeal has consistently improved and there isn't an obvious replacement I can see. The Labour party just need to tow the party line and get on with the job of effective opposition.

MrsFychan

they have up to 2 years after Article 50 has been posted, and there is debate on how that actually happens. Does it happen if when Cameron goes tomorrow and if he speaks about it does that mean he has posted Article 50 or does he formally have to write a letter with Government stamp on. Is it up to the other EU states to decide what is considered posted or is it down to UK to say well we can talk about it but until we formally post a letter stating categorically that UK wish to leave it is not posted.

Kotare

Up to the UK, EU has no input (despite Hollandes mumbling).

Osborne has said Oct by new PM

mikelincs

Article 50 has to be passed by the UK Parliament before it's invoked, and that, just possibly, may not happen as there are a majority of 'remainers' in Parliament.

Kotare

Apon which the Brexit MPs will block legislation, new election, UKiP sweeps the North (as above).

Amazing how many 'Remainers' suddenly don't support a democratic mandate to leave :-)

mikelincs

I'm not too sure that the 'leavers ' would win if it was re-run, many people are now realising just what they did, and that what they thought they were voting for wasn't what they did vote for, stopping immigration of Muslims and Syrians etc. That they have cut much of the UK from necessary EU finding which they relied on for jobs etc.

Kotare

and who provides the EU funding?

chocolate cake

Jeremy Corbyn, perhaps a decent guy maybe, but a leader (or captain to use Cameron's word) he certainly is not. He's un-electable to the main public beyond Labour Activists, and would be a key reason why any new Tory leader would consider a late autumn/early spring election.

With the Leave vote already there's evidence of jobs disappearing, but seems there's plenty of vacancies in Corbyn's shadow cabinet today, he may struggle to fill them.