Too good for New Zealand?
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Too good for New Zealand?
In today's 'Dominion Post' there was a story in the business section about some American guy who wanted to work in New Zealand.
He was hoping to work in the IT sector and had some top qualification that only 400 people in the world have (I know nothing about IT but I can go away and find out the name if anyone is curious)
After a year of applying for IT jobs in NZ he's going back to the States having had NO job offers at all.
Can you be too good for New Zealand?
He was hoping to work in the IT sector and had some top qualification that only 400 people in the world have (I know nothing about IT but I can go away and find out the name if anyone is curious)
After a year of applying for IT jobs in NZ he's going back to the States having had NO job offers at all.
Can you be too good for New Zealand?
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
Depends what salary he's after ....................
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
I went and checked the paper....
The guy has 22 years experience, worked for Caltech and NASA and has a 'Master qualification in the ITIL standard for infrastructure management' (whatever that is).
He says he was willing to work anywhere in NZ and take the going rate of pay.
Too good for NZ?
The article kind of hinted that the top level jobs aren't open to foreigners....we are here to do the grunt work!
The guy has 22 years experience, worked for Caltech and NASA and has a 'Master qualification in the ITIL standard for infrastructure management' (whatever that is).
He says he was willing to work anywhere in NZ and take the going rate of pay.
Too good for NZ?
The article kind of hinted that the top level jobs aren't open to foreigners....we are here to do the grunt work!
Last edited by Avid; Nov 19th 2007 at 6:21 am.
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
Well that's bollocks to begin with.
Unsure why, maybe he should name some of the companies he went to and we can ask them.
Unsure why, maybe he should name some of the companies he went to and we can ask them.
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
Every once in a while articles such as this come out - i am a teeny bit suspicious about them. The person may have a valid problem but there are a number of other issues at play. For instance, is he presenting his CV and introducing himself in such a way that he actually appears like he wants the job (and not doing it simply to fill in time until he finds his preferred job).
Lets be honest, qualifications and even sometimes work experience don't mean much if the guy comes across as a nutbar. Not to say he does, just that some people do and without knowing anything about the guy in question i wouldn't want to say.. I have dealt with a lot of applicants recently who may appear fine on paper but are simply too much to handle - ie won't listen when you explain something. Tell you that you should provide more time for applications (4 weeks to get them in!) etc etc. Drives me mental.
I hope he does get a job though cos it would be very disheartening.
Lets be honest, qualifications and even sometimes work experience don't mean much if the guy comes across as a nutbar. Not to say he does, just that some people do and without knowing anything about the guy in question i wouldn't want to say.. I have dealt with a lot of applicants recently who may appear fine on paper but are simply too much to handle - ie won't listen when you explain something. Tell you that you should provide more time for applications (4 weeks to get them in!) etc etc. Drives me mental.
I hope he does get a job though cos it would be very disheartening.
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
At the end of the article it says that you can go to his website ('farstar-company') and look at his CV.
Perhaps somebody in the IT sector can have a look and tell us if the guy is too good for NZ.
(He ought to change his photo...to be honest....he looks a bit of a lounge lizard)
Perhaps somebody in the IT sector can have a look and tell us if the guy is too good for NZ.
(He ought to change his photo...to be honest....he looks a bit of a lounge lizard)
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
He's not to good, the problemn seems as though there is no job for him.
He is a man of many trades in IT which may limit his job success as if he was to be offered a lesser job employers might be worried how long he may stay in that job before he moves on.
He best start brushing up on ITIL ver 3
He is a man of many trades in IT which may limit his job success as if he was to be offered a lesser job employers might be worried how long he may stay in that job before he moves on.
He best start brushing up on ITIL ver 3
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
it's hard being brilliant you know!
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At the end of the article it says that you can go to his website ('farstar-company') and look at his CV.
Perhaps somebody in the IT sector can have a look and tell us if the guy is too good for NZ.
(He ought to change his photo...to be honest....he looks a bit of a lounge lizard)
Perhaps somebody in the IT sector can have a look and tell us if the guy is too good for NZ.
(He ought to change his photo...to be honest....he looks a bit of a lounge lizard)
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
You can be too qualified here I have found. I had floods of job offers and also was head hunted a lot in the UK. I am now looking for a new job here....and have been told that I am over qualified, and recruitment consultants have told me to take one of my qualifications off my CV, to appear less threatening to potential managers!!! It is nuts.......and no I am not a nutbar!
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You can be too qualified here I have found. I had floods of job offers and also was head hunted a lot in the UK. I am now looking for a new job here....and have been told that I am over qualified, and recruitment consultants have told me to take one of my qualifications off my CV, to appear less threatening to potential managers!!! It is nuts.......and no I am not a nutbar!
If your CV is aimed at the position you are applying for and your front page has "CV prepared for the company" you may well already be ahead of other applicants.
And in these days of computers it is certainly easy enough to do.
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
Absolutely....at my age (mid 20s)...apparently I am still over qualified with my experience. I cannot win....but I will get the job I want eventually....positive thought!!
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
Why should being well qualified be threatening to potential managers? Is the level of insecurity here so bad that well qualified, experienced people are being rejected? This sounds to me like madness.
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It is a problem when the job market is so tight. I work in quite a small workplace and it is difficult for me because i am the one who has to train the new staff who come in. However, unlike a large Govt department there is nobody else available to do my work. The time and committment required is quite high. Especially for someone who potentially may still be seriously looking for work.
In case it was relevant, the highly skilled positions at my work are actually filled by people from overseas on work permits but when employing we still have to be very careful to check they are applying for the position because they want it or because they need to fill in time until they can find their preferred job.
In case it was relevant, the highly skilled positions at my work are actually filled by people from overseas on work permits but when employing we still have to be very careful to check they are applying for the position because they want it or because they need to fill in time until they can find their preferred job.
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Re: Too good for New Zealand?
Do you think the higher the skill the higher the turnover? Do the less skilled stay in jobs longer? And, does salary play a part in turnover?