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Old Jul 31st 2012, 10:54 pm
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Hi Clappy! Just a quick one... whats wrong with the working practices in NZ?? I'm about to start work in Auckland on 13th August... what should i be prepared for??
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Kiwis don't like change for a start. They don't want to be told that there is a better/safer/easier way to do something. You need to choose your battles carefully.
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Hi Clappy! Just a quick one... whats wrong with the working practices in NZ?? I'm about to start work in Auckland on 13th August... what should i be prepared for??
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It will depend on the type of work that you will be doing and who you are doing it for.

I work for a large corporate (its the smallest company that I have ever worked for but it is large by NZ standards) and the main thing that frustrates me on a daily basis is that it is impossible to make any progress because it is impossible to get anyone with any influence to make a decision, on anything.

Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.

Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.

My wife works as an operations manager for a financial services firm, which is more or less the same has her role was in London.

In London, her staff were professional people in their twenties and thirties that could (mostly) be relied upon to knuckle down and get things done.

Here, despite most of her staff being nearer retirement than the start of their careers she comes home every night complaining that they behave like little children.

Originally Posted by Vitalstatistix View Post
Kiwis don't like change for a start. They don't want to be told that there is a better/safer/easier way to do something. You need to choose your battles carefully.
I find that overseas experience is not valued at all if you are a foreigner, you can't possible know what you are doing. My wife is a kiwi that lived overseas for a long time and that has stood her in good stead. Go figure!

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Old Aug 2nd 2012, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by Clappy View Post
It will depend on the type of work that you will be doing and who you are doing it for.

I work for a large corporate (its the smallest company that I have ever worked for but it is large by NZ standards) and the main thing that frustrates me on a daily basis is that it is impossible to make any progress because it is impossible to get anyone with any influence to make a decision, on anything.

Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.

Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.

My wife works as an operations manager for a financial services firm, which is more or less the same has her role was in London.

In London, her staff were professional people in their twenties and thirties that could (mostly) be relied upon to knuckle down and get things done.

Here, despite most of her staff being nearer retirement than the start of their careers she comes home every night complaining that they behave like little children.



I find that overseas experience is not valued at all if you are a foreigner, you can't possible know what you are doing. My wife is a kiwi that lived overseas for a long time and that has stood her in good stead. Go figure!

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Sounds a joy!! oh well too late now!! I'll let you know in due course of I find this the case at my place!
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Old Aug 2nd 2012, 10:48 am
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.......the main thing that frustrates me on a daily basis is that it is impossible to make any progress because it is impossible to get anyone with any influence to make a decision, on anything.

Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.

Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.


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Old Aug 3rd 2012, 7:50 pm
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We intended it to be a move forever so we applied for PR ,, BUT now I m sorry to say I just want to return ,,,
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Originally Posted by yjx1nt7 View Post
We intended it to be a move forever so we applied for PR ,, BUT now I m sorry to say I just want to return ,,,
Hi,

Where in the Midlands are you from? We came from Coventry.

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Old Aug 3rd 2012, 8:24 pm
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PR has nothing to do with wanting to stay permanently - after all we all typically have "PR" in our country of origin yet have decided that may not be permanent....
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Old Aug 3rd 2012, 8:40 pm
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Hi,

Where in the Midlands are you from? We came from Coventry.

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Sutton Coldfield but lived in Coventry when I was very young,,
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Originally Posted by yjx1nt7 View Post
We intended it to be a move forever so we applied for PR ,, BUT now I m sorry to say I just want to return ,,,
Sorry to read this yjx1nt7. I remember all your journey to get here. Your hopes and dreams & your bravery when you first arrived.
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Originally Posted by Vitalstatistix View Post
Kiwis don't like change for a start. They don't want to be told that there is a better/safer/easier way to do something. You need to choose your battles carefully.
are you sure it is always them that doesn't like to change...
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are you sure it is always them that doesn't like to change...
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Old Aug 4th 2012, 10:31 pm
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are you sure it is always them that doesn't like to change...
I was being a bit flippant TBH, but don't mess with me at the moment as I'm EXTREMELY HORMONAL
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