Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
Jul 31st 2012, 10:54 pm
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
Kiwis don't like change for a start. They don't want to be told that there is a better/safer/easier way to do something. You need to choose your battles carefully.
I'm about to start work in Auckland on 13th August... what should i be prepared for?? 
Aug 2nd 2012, 5:57 am
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
I work for a large corporate (its the smallest company that I have ever worked for but it is large by NZ standards) and the main thing that frustrates me on a daily basis is that it is impossible to make any progress because it is impossible to get anyone with any influence to make a decision, on anything.
Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.
Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.
My wife works as an operations manager for a financial services firm, which is more or less the same has her role was in London.
In London, her staff were professional people in their twenties and thirties that could (mostly) be relied upon to knuckle down and get things done.
Here, despite most of her staff being nearer retirement than the start of their careers she comes home every night complaining that they behave like little children.
I find that overseas experience is not valued at all if you are a foreigner, you can't possible know what you are doing. My wife is a kiwi that lived overseas for a long time and that has stood her in good stead. Go figure!
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Aug 2nd 2012, 7:29 am
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
It will depend on the type of work that you will be doing and who you are doing it for.
I work for a large corporate (its the smallest company that I have ever worked for but it is large by NZ standards) and the main thing that frustrates me on a daily basis is that it is impossible to make any progress because it is impossible to get anyone with any influence to make a decision, on anything.
Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.
Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.
My wife works as an operations manager for a financial services firm, which is more or less the same has her role was in London.
In London, her staff were professional people in their twenties and thirties that could (mostly) be relied upon to knuckle down and get things done.
Here, despite most of her staff being nearer retirement than the start of their careers she comes home every night complaining that they behave like little children.
I find that overseas experience is not valued at all if you are a foreigner, you can't possible know what you are doing. My wife is a kiwi that lived overseas for a long time and that has stood her in good stead. Go figure!
I work for a large corporate (its the smallest company that I have ever worked for but it is large by NZ standards) and the main thing that frustrates me on a daily basis is that it is impossible to make any progress because it is impossible to get anyone with any influence to make a decision, on anything.
Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.
Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.
My wife works as an operations manager for a financial services firm, which is more or less the same has her role was in London.
In London, her staff were professional people in their twenties and thirties that could (mostly) be relied upon to knuckle down and get things done.
Here, despite most of her staff being nearer retirement than the start of their careers she comes home every night complaining that they behave like little children.
I find that overseas experience is not valued at all if you are a foreigner, you can't possible know what you are doing. My wife is a kiwi that lived overseas for a long time and that has stood her in good stead. Go figure!
Oh
Sounds a joy!!
oh well too late now!! I'll let you know in due course of I find this the case at my place! 
Aug 2nd 2012, 10:48 am
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
.......the main thing that frustrates me on a daily basis is that it is impossible to make any progress because it is impossible to get anyone with any influence to make a decision, on anything.
Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.
Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.
Someone might take a position, but there is always the likelihood that down the line that position will be questioned and so it becomes a case of revisiting everything over and over again.
Then there are the people that are so frightened that they might be seen as being responsible for a decision that has been made that they won't do anything without sign-off from somebody else. Anybody else, just as long as they are not themselves responsible for it.
Aug 3rd 2012, 7:50 pm
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
We intended it to be a move forever so we applied for PR ,, BUT now I m sorry to say I just want to return ,,,
Aug 3rd 2012, 8:19 pm
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Aug 3rd 2012, 8:24 pm
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
PR has nothing to do with wanting to stay permanently - after all we all typically have "PR" in our country of origin yet have decided that may not be permanent....
Aug 3rd 2012, 9:54 pm
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
Sorry to read this yjx1nt7. I remember all your journey to get here. Your hopes and dreams & your bravery when you first arrived.
Aug 4th 2012, 12:30 am
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Re: Those with PR - were you sure you were going for good?
