Mark Smith

******Warning generalising statement ahead*********

And there is one of the biggest reasons we left ( I know it grinds some peoples gears, immigrants moaning about other immigrants).

Catchafire

Technically its emigrants talking about emigrants.

I wonder what will happen if an asylum seeking boat ever turns up.........

BEVS

We do take asylum seekers . Though not via a boat.

Mark Smith

At the current rate there will be so many asylum seekers they'll fill up a city the size of Christchurch in 466.67 years.

What happens if a boat load of red squirrels turned up, claiming they were being harassed by the greys. Would DOC let them in?

kiwigeordie

Please! Let's not get into the colour question.
Pete

Mark Smith

Didn't really think about the colour aspect Pete, more that I miss seeing squirrels.

BEVS

I don't know.The difference might be in the swimming rather than the boat.

Charismatic

The British approach is a paradox, they moan about foreigner taking scarce jobs but live in a country with an aging population (and the numerous associated economic problems that is causing).

janeyk

can I just say the Brits have every right to place themselves in an EU member state without question there is no mention here or moan about that!
how many Bruits in the last 40 years have gone to France, Spain and lately the Baltic states and bought cheap property! all visa free!

2nd point how many of those expats also go and reside in these countries make little or no effort to mingle do not learn language etc and the UK people maon when this happens in the UK
rant over!

I have an Australian friend who has lived in this country for 38 years he has been told he is only a resident and not a permanent resident and their could be issues if the govt decided to change the rules re resident. He has been advised it might be worth filling in a few forms, paying the fee and applying and then wait a few years to get citizenship

RedDragon2008

Hope this remains

But seriously everyone who has gone through migration to NZ has done so with a lot of cost and hard work and by no way should we suggest an easy street.

Tom1983

NZ copy British immigration policies

*puts Daily Mail hat on for first quote*

If you'd be happy allowing any tom, dick or harry into your country throwing them free benefits, give them free healthcare, send them into a house whatever size family they are, and then allow them to bring every single member of their family to the country - promote terrorism and steal from anyone, providing that they vote for war craving cretins, then go ahead and copy with the policies

*takes Mail reading hat off and puts Guardian hat reading on*

If it means bringing more culture and gets them doing the jobs and stuff that the lazy arse Kiwis can't be bothered to do - then go for it

*takes off all hats*

What's the details about why your nephew was rejected? If he is in London, contact Bojo as i'm sure he'd love to help. I suppose being part of the European Union is difficult for Brits since EU freedoms give European countries entitlement over non EU countries. Does he fancy spending a couple of years in Italy, France or Germany - in order to get EU residency/citizenship and then move to Blighty?

NZ immigration is tough! We've been here for 2 years and our application to stay permanently is delayed because someone that was born here needs a medical - WTF!! Another $250 down the swamp on top of the expensive forms filled, application fees etc. I wish UK immigration was as tough as New Zealand

Justcol

as far as nz rules go i'd much rather see all the sponging islanders being told to sod off
rather than chucking out someone, anyone who has got a job

Bellasmum

ouch !

New Zealand has always been, geographically, a group of Pacific islands. As New Zealand’s identity has shifted away from being a distant outpost of the British Empire, it has increasingly emphasised linkages, both cultural and political, with other island nations in the Pacific. New sources of cultural inspiration – including those brought by Pacific migrants – have become important. The right to automatic NZ citizenship applies to many of the Island citizens.

Mark Smith

And now we've reached the point before I do a Malcolm Tucker and instead say I've enjoyed the debate and have nothing to add.

BEVS

Obviously I am not keen on anyone who 'sponges' or 'leeches' from a country. It doesn't matter who and it doesn't matter where.

As you all know I live in the Nelson, Tasman and Bays area.

I can say, having lived here for 10 years , that if it wasn't for the Pacific Islanders coming over , the pip fruit growers, hop and wine industries etc would struggle big-time. Those folk take up hard work and living conditions that no-one else here seems to want.

Those folk also enrich our area. I don't say that to be PC. Through living here, I have come to see this .

I do agree about leeches and spongers , though how a society handles that for the best when balancing welfare for the truely needy seems to remain an elusive mystery.