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Old Apr 9th 2013, 11:45 am
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I'm with BEVS on this, a quiet family funeral would be the best thing all round.

I disagreed with almost all her politics and her approach to enacting those politics. I am certainly not sad she is no longer alive [however, I am not celebrating in the streets!] I suspect there may be a geographical divide as to how you view her which isn't just north vs south.
Will stop there so this doesn't turn into a big pro/against thread-that's what TIO is for
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Old Apr 9th 2013, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by simonsi
Still think she IS the PM: 10%

I wonder what % of UK taxpayersdon't actually know who she was .
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Originally Posted by BEVS
I wonder what % of UK taxpayersdon't actually know who she was .
Make that: I wonder what % of UK residents don't actually know who she was.
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Old Apr 9th 2013, 1:39 pm
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Originally Posted by downunderpom
Make that: I wonder what % of UK residents don't actually know who she was.


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Old Apr 9th 2013, 2:07 pm
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I wonder what % of UK taxpayersdon't actually know who she was .
Ah, spoil a joke with facts
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Originally Posted by downunderpom
Make that: I wonder what % of UK residents don't actually know who she was.
Split the difference. Tax paying residents then.
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Old Apr 9th 2013, 5:21 pm
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Didn't care much for her politics but evidently the UK embraced that individualist ideology for better or worse.


In leadership you often have to put pragmatic actions ahead of ideological positions, that's why all Prime Ministers deserve our respect regardless of our personal politics. Being a good Prime Minster is often more about leadership and confronting difficult realities day-to-day than satisfying every whim and desire of your party. I think Margret Thatcher managed, so is David Cameron and so did Tony Blair. Our respect for them should transcend that of political persuasion and acknowledge that their position was to make difficult decisions, regardless of how unpopular.

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“I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy, ” Dr. M. Luther King.
Well good old MLK was a better man than most I guess x
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Ambivalent is the word for my feelings

Was made redundant from steelworks because her, at the time I like most of Scotland hated her

Now 30 years on I don't really care I have a decent life, nice family all of which I would never of had if I hadn't been made redundant, because I moved on unlike alot of people

What I cannot stand (and it will happen) is people jumping on the bandwagon celebrating her death and will no doubt cause trouble at the funeral. The pictures I have seen most of the people were kids or not even born during her time
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Old Apr 9th 2013, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Tom1983
Oooo this could be interesting - where's the popcorn..
Ha ha, that made me chuckle. I'm staying out of it!
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Old Apr 10th 2013, 9:54 am
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Ha ha, that made me chuckle. I'm staying out of it!
Gven your username - you potentially have every right to voice an opinion. Either you're linked to the very harsh scab name or if you follow the red side of Liverpool - then Hillsborough gives you every ammunitiion.

Apologies if either offend you.

Totally agree with Jobyr01 regarding the youngsters celebrating her death. What the fook did she do to get on their nerves? Some of them celebrating didn't even have families affected by her policies.

The NUS made the best one - celebrating since she started tuition fees. So David Blunkett had nothing to do with it then - morons
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Old Apr 10th 2013, 10:03 am
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Gven your username - you potentially have every right to voice an opinion. Either you're linked to the very harsh scab name or if you follow the red side of Liverpool - then Hillsborough gives you every ammunitiion.

Apologies if either offend you.

Totally agree with Jobyr01 regarding the youngsters celebrating her death. What the fook did she do to get on their nerves? Some of them celebrating didn't even have families affected by her policies.

The NUS made the best one - celebrating since she started tuition fees. So David Blunkett had nothing to do with it then - morons
I was at Hillsborough, lived in Notts since 97. Not offended, I love giving the locals a few digs about strolling through picket lines. Bite every time!
I don't really know enough about politics, she blighted the north to the apparent benefit of the south. She was at the forefront of a cover up that only the persistence of the "little man" revelealed. I've no love for her on that basis.
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Old Apr 10th 2013, 10:35 am
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Great PM, and taking back the Falklands was the only option for anyone with spine. And that comes from someone who has worn a naval uniform for 29 years. I see in today's Herald we have some lefty apologist saying we should cave in to that idiot running North Korea so he can save face. For a professor of history he shows little knowledge of the consequences of appeasement.
As for British Industry, she did not ruin that, the trades unions did. British industry such as British Leyland and uneconomic mines were already brain dead, she was the doctor who turned off the life support. All the socialists who can't accept that are in my opinion just a bunch of spoilt kids crying because they had their sweeties taken away.
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Old Apr 11th 2013, 4:07 am
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Interesting reading today-one of the South Yorkshire mines has only just closed.

I find myself at odds with most of you on here. I am from the North East and my opinions are based on what she did to the heavy industry and manufacturing heartlands. Large areas of the country were laid waste and people's lives and livelihoods were tossed aside giving them the only option to go on benefits or 'get on their bikes' [often easier said than done].
I agree that if mines, steelworks etc were unprofitable, then close them down. But there needed to be a plan for the future, some policy of regeneration in those areas rather than letting them rot. To me, a 'great' leader would have realised the effects of her policies, not allowed the fight and winning to become an end in itself and not shown such disregard and contempt for working communities. In my eyes, that in itself means she was not great. She was PM to all the UK and she had a responsibility to all, whether they voted for her or not.
Selfishness and the 'I'm alright,Jack' attitude are not admirable.
I could never see any merit in the poll tax, a tax that is only fair on paper or in a society where there is very little income disparity.

Time to stop I think, this post is long enough

At least my taxes are not going on the pointless and unnecessary recall of Parliament in order to pay tribute to her-a move not supported by all Tories either. Neither will they go on the 'ceremonial' funeral which again does not take into account the discord and division that woman caused. The funeral should have been small, private and family orientated with the taxpayer providing minimal input.
My thoughts on hearing about her death were, oddly enough, relief. No plans to organise a street party either, much as I love a good party. Maybe now Britain can move on from her legacy and leave Thatcherism in the past where it belongs.

Rant over! Will now go back to answering questions on immigration which is where I tend to hangout! No one will ever change their minds over how they view her and her legacy whatever anyone says.

Peace to you all!
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Old Apr 11th 2013, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by lapsed kiwi
Great PM, and taking back the Falklands was the only option for anyone with spine. And that comes from someone who has worn a naval uniform for 29 years. I see in today's Herald we have some lefty apologist saying we should cave in to that idiot running North Korea so he can save face. For a professor of history he shows little knowledge of the consequences of appeasement.
As for British Industry, she did not ruin that, the trades unions did. British industry such as British Leyland and uneconomic mines were already brain dead, she was the doctor who turned off the life support. All the socialists who can't accept that are in my opinion just a bunch of spoilt kids crying because they had their sweeties taken away.
Good post.
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