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Mark Smith Apr 9th 2013 8:52 am

Sad day
 
RIP Maggie. :britflag:

mcgarnagle Apr 9th 2013 9:08 am

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I'd say she's a major reason why a lot of you are in NZ.

Tom1983 Apr 9th 2013 9:12 am

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Oooo this could be interesting - where's the popcorn..

Mark Smith Apr 9th 2013 9:14 am

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Not for me. Tony and chums sold my future off.
Anyway the post was a tribute to a Lady who had a bigger pair than any of the current rabble.

MrsFychan Apr 9th 2013 9:19 am

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keeping an http://www.clker.com/cliparts/a/3/3/...17.svg.med.pngon. so please play nicely.

Mark Smith Apr 9th 2013 9:23 am

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play nicely
:D

downunderpom Apr 9th 2013 9:28 am

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Originally Posted by Mark Smith (Post 10648474)
Not for me. Tony and chums sold my future off.
Anyway the post was a tribute to a Lady who had a bigger pair than any of the current rabble.

Damn' right! :goodpost: Best PM since Churchill.

Robbie2010 Apr 9th 2013 9:42 am

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She was a vile old witch and wont be missed by me.
She destroyed british industry, put 3.5 million on the dole! ... and created the corporate greed culture and financial deregulation that's put the uk in the crap its in now!

Boopy Apr 9th 2013 10:04 am

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News flash! she's been in hell for less than a day & already shut down 3 furnaces!

simonsi Apr 9th 2013 10:37 am

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Originally Posted by Robbie2010 (Post 10648522)
She was a vile old witch and wont be missed by me.
She destroyed british industry, put 3.5 million on the dole! ... and created the corporate greed culture and financial deregulation that's put the uk in the crap its in now!

Right, cos the 70's were just great with the 3-day week and the great overall quality of British goods of that era (Morris Marina, Austin Maxi anyone?), best thing she ever did was set the scene to keep the UK out of the Euro after the ERM failure - and that is what has got much of the Euro-zone into the mess it is now.

She had the coursge of her convictions, as Arthur and the Argentine Junta amongst others, found out.

barnsleymat Apr 9th 2013 10:46 am

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Originally Posted by mcgarnagle (Post 10648463)
I'd say she's a major reason why a lot of you are in NZ.

Living in a town populated by people that blame anything and everything on what a woman did 30 years more like, if as much effort was put into putting the town back on track as has been used in moaning about her it'd be the richest town in the UK.

I'm no Thatcher fan, infact I hate all the main political parties, but 30 years of listening to the same old crap being spouting is too much. I was born about 30 years after the end of WW2 and I can't remember the Germans still getting the blame for everything.

The town never moved on, so I had to.

Genesis Apr 9th 2013 10:49 am

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Originally Posted by Robbie2010 (Post 10648522)
She was a vile old witch and wont be missed by me.
She destroyed british industry, put 3.5 million on the dole! ... and created the corporate greed culture and financial deregulation that's put the uk in the crap its in now!

The jokes are already out...she died of a strike, er, sorry a stroke.

Personally I feel she sent many hundreds of soldiers (on both sides) to an early grave and over what? A bit of sod? If I was the son, father, wife, daughter of ANY of those soldiers (on either side) I would not feel their deaths were worthwhile. We should have given it back and repatriate those UK folk there. The Argentinians were hardly after world supremacy, they wanted what they thought was theirs.

The then defence secretary apparently advised her not to do it....she clearly had her own agenda.

lapsed kiwi Apr 9th 2013 10:59 am

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Great PM, and taking back the Falklands was the only option for anyone with spine. And that comes from someone who has worn a naval uniform for 29 years. I see in today's Herald we have some lefty apologist saying we should cave in to that idiot running North Korea so he can save face. For a professor of history he shows little knowledge of the consequences of appeasement.
As for British Industry, she did not ruin that, the trades unions did. British industry such as British Leyland and uneconomic mines were already brain dead, she was the doctor who turned off the life support. All the socialists who can't accept that are in my opinion just a bunch of spoilt kids crying because they had their sweeties taken away.

GoingIn2011 Apr 9th 2013 11:11 am

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Originally Posted by simonsi (Post 10648600)
Right, cos the 70's were just great with the 3-day week and the great overall quality of British goods of that era (Morris Marina, Austin Maxi anyone?), best thing she ever did was set the scene to keep the UK out of the Euro after the ERM failure - and that is what has got much of the Euro-zone into the mess it is now.

She had the coursge of her convictions, as Arthur and the Argentine Junta amongst others, found out.

There's the rationale argument - and quite sensible - yours.
Then there's the emotional argument.
Round my way, we were bred to hate her. Funny, I thought I would be more affected. Time dulls the emotions, evidently.

Or maybe the conditioning to despise her, in my youth, was just itself very flawed. I am the product of Thatcher and the hatred that circulated because of her. But I feel nothing at her passing. I think (and know) that I have moved on...

simonsi Apr 9th 2013 11:27 am

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Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 10648624)
they wanted what they thought was theirs

Well that's OK then!

So anyone can take anything they like by force just so long as they think they have a right to it??? Argentina has a history of diverting their populations interest in home democracy by getting excited about the Falklands, if we had given in what then? Perhaps they suddenly believe they have a right to Chile??

At that time there were many dictators and local tensions that could easily have exploded into much worse conflicts once they understood that "principle" was being followed. A small war then was much less costly in every way than the much larger conflicts that appeasement would have spawned.


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