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Charismatic Oct 13th 2017 3:06 am

Re: Road death statistics
 
Interest carrying a little more data but it still looks like no one is really sure why: http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/90323/sam-warburton-welcomes-public-debate-over-road-toll-bemoans-it-has-taken-horrific

Justcol Oct 13th 2017 8:25 am

Re: Road death statistics
 
Maybe the fact that half the population travel round on mass
packed like sardines, 7 or 8 strong into 20 year old shonky people carriers
when they crash its like an explosion in a spaghetti factory, especially as fewer people
seem to be wearing seat belts now

escapedtonz Oct 14th 2017 7:11 am

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Originally Posted by Justcol (Post 12360014)
Maybe the fact that half the population travel round on mass
packed like sardines, 7 or 8 strong into 20 year old shonky people carriers
when they crash its like an explosion in a spaghetti factory, especially as fewer people
seem to be wearing seat belts now

So true.
Only this evening a subaru station wagon pulling out of the Mclaren Falls Park road had 3 kids in the boot staring at me out of the back window as I passed going over the Kaimai's. There must have been 8 of em in the car :eek::blink::huh:
....and a friend today watched dumbfounded as a mum drove out of Pac n Save in Tauranga with her seriously young baby on her knee....WTF!!! :thumbdown:

BEVS Oct 14th 2017 11:50 pm

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Originally Posted by thelivinglegend (Post 12359932)
Don't forget Dubai... many here have a serious problem with driving!

I'm not in Dubai so those drivers will be unable to maim or kill me. :confused:

BEVS Oct 14th 2017 11:52 pm

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Originally Posted by escapedtonz (Post 12360720)
So true.
Only this evening a subaru station wagon pulling out of the Mclaren Falls Park road had 3 kids in the boot staring at me out of the back window as I passed going over the Kaimai's. There must have been 8 of em in the car :eek::blink::huh:
....and a friend today watched dumbfounded as a mum drove out of Pac n Save in Tauranga with her seriously young baby on her knee....WTF!!! :thumbdown:

Wot , no dog(s) swaying around in the back . Seriously undercrowded.

Charismatic Oct 15th 2017 12:10 am

Re: Road death statistics
 
People have been driving around in overcrowded people movers for year though, why would we expect to see a move upwards in crashes now?

Charismatic Jan 1st 2018 4:55 am

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Looks like other people are also wondering why there are more people crashing.

Stuck in Auckland Jan 1st 2018 8:16 am

Re: Road death statistics
 
Bugger buying a sports car for my 40th

Gona get a tank with air everything

Perhaps with a sign "I eat Ford Rangers"

sr71 Jan 7th 2018 10:11 am

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Is it really that bad? A cursory glance puts NZ at around 29th in the world on road deaths per capita. (6 per 100,000)

A dozen or so countries ranked better than NZ are just not comparable (Singapore, Monaco, Maldives, Kiribati etc)

Given the terrain and roads I'm not sure we'd ever get to the same levels as say the UK with it's better motorway network.

And the reality is people check phones, mess around with increasingly complex in-car systems, no doubt that is a factor. Yes mobile phones have been around since the 80's, but really only the last 5-10 years the use of applications has exploded and the phones are now used almost constantly

BEVS Jan 8th 2018 9:11 pm

Re: Road death statistics
 

Originally Posted by sr71 (Post 12412904)
Is it really that bad?

Yes.

Clappy Jan 9th 2018 7:31 am

Re: Road death statistics
 

Originally Posted by sr71 (Post 12412904)
Is it really that bad?


Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12414103)
Yes.

I overheard two kiwi colleagues talking today about how bad the driving was here.

One of them mentioned that they hadn't noticed it when they were growing up here but once they moved back after living overseas for a while they found it shocking.

This is in Auckland where the terrain is not difficult and the roads are good.

jmh Jan 10th 2018 9:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Clappy (Post 12414262)
I overheard two kiwi colleagues talking today about how bad the driving was here.

One of them mentioned that they hadn't noticed it when they were growing up here but once they moved back after living overseas for a while they found it shocking.

This is in Auckland where the terrain is not difficult and the roads are good.

I think Auckland is particularly bad. I was on Waiheke Island over the hols and we talked about the terrible Auckland drivers - even experienced it when my mum wasn't driving fast enough for some bozo and he honked his horn at her - we all called out 'bloody Auckland drivers'.

sr71 Jan 10th 2018 10:10 pm

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Originally Posted by jmh (Post 12415987)
I think Auckland is particularly bad. I was on Waiheke Island over the hols and we talked about the terrible Auckland drivers - even experienced it when my mum wasn't driving fast enough for some bozo and he honked his horn at her - we all called out 'bloody Auckland drivers'.

I don’t think Auckland is too bad, there are selfish idiots on the motorway but on the whole I find people let you in and are reasonably courteous.

The atrocious driving I have seen has been by Chinese drivers, both times I’ve had to take evasive action have been with them.

Charismatic Jan 11th 2018 1:20 am

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That might be true but drivers from developing countries are at a disadvantage because, for many, they will have been the first generation to have owned a car. They're not as far down the experience curve as we are as a society.

Also the quality of testing isn't very high and road policing very poor in many of these countries. Hence the road death statistics look appalling by our measures.

Stuck in Auckland Jan 11th 2018 1:31 am

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Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 12416079)
Drivers from developing countries are at a disadvantage because

Well your risks go up when i hit the road.

Drivers lack of attention and lack of adequate control of vehicles increases my chances of writing off your vehicles.

I don't break for no indication in to my lane. Yes the nudge will roll you.

I do have exceptionally fast breaks for rear-actions. Tailgaters are paying my daughters college fund.


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