lardyl

From facebook, not me own work (well some was), but seems to sum it up.

Genesis

The 68 year old who was attacked trying to put out a fire has died. Give me 100 dead roiters rather than one dead, innocent harmless pensioner or muslim lad trying to protect his place of worship.

I suffered from awful bullying in the police (because I was too honest and I did not fit the gormless stereo type of the day..came no where near it).

It went on for over 6 years from almost day 1. After suffering psychological trauma I left and joined a better force. I think having been so terribly bullied for so long is the reason I take the stance I do with the rioters. I LOATHE bullies who push you around and who make you feel scared, weak and hopeless. I hate the uncomprehendable hatred and violence they appear to relish. So you see I don't think I am really a right wing nutter.

love30stm

I think this thread needs to calm down its like a therapy session

Charismatic

Next you’ll be appealing for a reasoned response . Can we not do something about these ghastly poor permanently unemployed people, I’m sure we could outsource this problem to China or send them in lieu of food aid to North Korea?

Honestly though we do need a more permanent solution than water cannon and tear gas, one that breaks the cycle of intergeneration welfare dependence and gets people (especially the young) back on track to being productive members of society . Snuff out the problem at the root now so it isn't a problem later.

Charismatic

O yes, good article on the BBC about how they dealt with the problems in LA and New York.

lardyl

was about to post that.

hey genesis I'm with you mate, suffered from institutionalised bullying from ex-cops myself, not in the same way as you as I got out in less than a year - it was mainly because my boss thought I was too honest, he said "you are pathalogically honest" - yep some folks don't care about the means, just the ends.

Genesis

Cheers mate, some people were just born to be utter bastards. Alas I worked with waaaaaay too many of the psychotic tossers. I was once told by an inspector in a yearly review "you know you're not trusted, you won't write a book will you?" The latter being a euphamism for guilding the lilly or basically making stuff up. Nice one eh? When on street duties training arvo Hendon I said I would not do a witness ticket for a red light because I did not/could not see the driver committing the offence and the comment was made by the senior training PC "Right, well if that is your attitude...." What corrupt wankers.

Margaret Parkinson

Why not put them all in a secure room for 2 weeks with no mobile phones, games, etc with nothing to sit or sleep on. There can be toilet facilities that they will have to empty at the end of the 2 weeks. Oh forgot we will also have to feed them as well so pass some grub to them 3 times a day.

Am I being to harsh?

June

Bo-Jangles

Why only two weeks? Honestly, [email protected] will be [email protected] whatever you do and you can't legislate against stupidity. Thailand has places like the Bangkok Hilton where drug runners are treated exactly in this way, yet it doesn't deter some people carrying drugs into the country and the prisons are still full.

BEVS

Actually, no June and the reason is that you live there . Have always lived there. Remember how it was before all this flabby, wishy washy rubbish came in & above all, have earned a huge right to your opinion because you still live there and always will.

I am of a similar opinion TBH but then I came from very, very little so that probably makes my opinion negligible to the bleeding hearts .

Charismatic

Yeah...brutality worked on the coal miners and it only took 14 years ('72 - '85):

Effective!

lardyl

This is funny if you're from Glasgow, it's footage of rioting in Edinburgh:

lardyl

Also it solved the "Irish Question"
But I will defer to you sir on this as you know far more than I, no doubt.
I reckon that certain dubious tactics were required to bring onside terrorists and communities (on both sides of the sectarian divide).
Whole different packet of tea from the rioters in Salford though.

Charismatic

I lived well south of the border luckily .

love30stm

http://youtu.be/diHvxQEz3gs