Charismatic

I'm very much appreciating our place in the quiet corner of the world and the distance between us and the Middle East/North Africa at the moment. Hopefully geographical constraints continue to be a deterrent.

I was dissapointed to hear a German politician talking about war and such. What Germany needs is a calm, rational approach to both stemming the flow of refugees (numbers are already declining), relocating refugees back to their place of origin at the cessation of hostilities in those areas and finally better resourcing of police and security services to deal with the issues they've inherited.

Gordon Barlow

What Germany needs too, although it probably won't happen, is to quit NATO and stop creating refugees by bombing their homes in the Middle East. As a general statement, the cessation of hostilities means the withdrawal of NATO aircraft and NATO-sponsored on-the-ground armies. Silly, silly, people!

Kotare

Not going to happen. Given a very high percentage of the 'refugees' are economic migrants they are not going to voluntarily return home (and are going to continue coming). So unless you are going to erect ever higher border barricades eg Calais, watch them drown and/or return them at gunpoint?? Given Germany is already fairly regimented eg Id cards and a fierce bureaucracy not sure what further steps a Western democracy can take - but AfD should do well in the next elections.

Kotare

Sounds like another left wing liberal apologist for Putin/Assad et al. I can just see Al Quaeda and IS laying down their arms because the West (I assume that incl NATO Turkey) pull out. It sounds like Trump agrees with you though and will sign a deal with Putin.

SSky

I don't understand any of it, I don't understand why they can't all stop killing each other and I don't understand why one religion would want to annihilate another. I know my Hindu friend hates all Muslims but I don't really know why she thinks that either. I feel so sad for the genuine refugees but if lone wolfs keep blowing up and driving into folk they're just going to bring their disagreements into our lives and I feel really angry about that. I feel vulnerable and threatened and I don't want to feel that way.
I worked with a Muslim guy years and years ago and he had no respect for women, he was disgusting and outright said a lot of disgusting things to me .. I was 19 and he made me feel very uncomfortable.
I think that's my major worry, that us women are being threatened and our freedom is being threatened. I don't give a monkeys about anything else really,I'm not religious, I believe we are just nature and will go back to it whether it be in the ground or back to join the stars.
IMO men have got a lot to answer for ;-/

Kotare

What a fun (if unintentional) thread this is. That is half the human race rubbished. Can you imagine the faux outrage if a man said this about females. Misogyny is unacceptable but misandry is fashionable?

Completely off topic - it is the poor downtrodden male who does the dangerous occupations, has a lower life expectancy and higher suicide rates that should be cherished :-).

SSky

I have three sons, this was said in jest but I brought my sons up to respect and honour women not just think of them as dirty rags ... just saying x

SSky

And also, I a female did a very manual hard work job in dairy for three years, I didi it to support my family. Actually a lot of women work in this industry . It's hard and is dangerous! I know as now my back is buggered after I was attacked by a bull that followed the cows into the milking yard.

SSky

Anyways ... back on topic

Justcol

All religions are about control, wealth and power. They are all complete nonsense.


Men have run the world for millennia, and sadly we don't seem to have made a very good job of it




This is the only religious book you need

Kotare

Approx 6 billion (out of 7 billion) profess a religious adherence so you need to shout louder :-)

DennisBergkamp

Germany, Sweden and the like are idiots.
These refugees posed no threat to the civilised world at the bottom of the sea. Should have left them there.

NZ should have a zero quota or build detention centres in the Auckland Islands and leave them there. Lucky we are surrounded by rough seas so know one can realistically make it here.

Muslim refugees belong in Muslim countries - i dont remember seeing Saudi Arabia offering a helping hand to people in Northern Ireland wishing to escape the troubles of the last 40 years.

Justcol

I am always mystified that seemingly sensible people can be so stupid.
Six billion people all believing some unworldly essence, burped, farted or
shat itself, and hey presto, out came the world.

scrubbedexpat094

Me too. We now understand more about the universe, life and everything than we have ever done. We have scientific explanations for why stuff happens and yet people seem more skeptical than ever about science. That people still buy into religion, alternative medicine and other mumbo-jumbo astounds me and also makes me despair for the human race.

jmh

The problem is that science has been corrupted by money - corporates, vested interests etc. Eg. Eating sugar is fine according to the scientific study funded by processed food producers. Scientific studies funded by mobile phone companies proved that there are no health risks from using mobile phones. That sort of thing.